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Ricardo -> RE: Family of flamenco star Paco de Lucía win full rights to songs (Apr. 20 2023 11:44:52)
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Entre dos aguas,
Beat me to it. Faustino Nuñez posted this on facebook, having some hand in it. I said, he should get only 34 songs back because Entre dos Aguas/Tangos was a rip from Las Grecas. [:D] Anyway, I think I had talked about this at some point many years back.
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=177073&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=torregrosa&tmode=&smode=&s=#177238
I think, in this case, it is a bit of a double edge sword situation, where, he was helping young paco to get some extra long-term royalty (as paco could not write music himself, someone that worked for Polygram would still have gotten paid for doing those bad transcriptions) as once it was in the form of (c) in addition to (p), the publisher was obligated to keep putting out those bad versions to secure royalty. The bad part was that Torregrosa was taking advantage of the situation, thinking nobody would notice or care that he was pretending authorship for doing that job. So, to be fair to the family of Torregrosa who was not truly responsible after he died, I would give Paco’s heirs, only the amounts corresponding to 50% of (p).
Also, to complicate things a bit. If you guys remember when Camaron died, their family hit Paco up pretty hard for the same thing, considering that Paco was only accompanying the cante that he had no right to claim authorship royalty. Another double edge sword situation, cuz Paco ended up paying some thousands to Camaron’s widow… I have one old transcription book where authorship is shared between Paco and Antonio Fernandez Diaz (Fosforito??), but I would not be surprised if Torregrosa transcribed those as well, yet does not claim any credit.
Here is one of my quotes that gets more into the sentiment about the parasitic nature of taking advantage of a situation like this, and regarding the “music theory exam” requirement to collect royalties:
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About torregrossa... He wrote wrong fly poop [standard music notation] to sell so Paco (and family with Camaron records) could collect (c) royalties in addition to (p) royalties. What a nice guy. Of course I realized, as a music business student in college, what an easy way for no talent mediocrity to leech money off of the talents of others simply due to ignorance about the biz, and ability to "read and write" ie "know" music. Mr. Tore gross ah, also was receiving his not so fair share of both (c) and (p), as if HE composed a SINGLE FREAKIN NOTE, thanks to his AMAZING ABILITY (sarcasm) to read and write standard notation. You can already guess my feelings about this so called "music exam" one needs to pass in Spain and FOR WHAT REASON IT WAS DESIGNED.
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