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estebanana -> RE: Stephen Faulk Negra (Apr. 13 2023 3:04:41)
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The bracing is straight up, verbatim, carbon copy, 200% on point absolutely posi-authentically Hauser I Segovia guitar of the Epoch.
The Hauser comes out of Santos and is a direct line back to Torres and it’s completely flamenco. All you have to do it thin it and set up the geometry to give a low saddle that flamenco guitarist needs.
Lots of basic ‘Kite’ patterns make good flamenco guitars. I think, fix my knowledge if I’m wrong, that all the flamenco brace patterns are simple variations on Torres’ kite system. You can change it to five fans, or even add fans ( I’ve seen flamenco guitars with 9 fans) - you can change the angle of the fans so they are parallel to the grain, or point them higher at the 9th fret center line to not get such a close fan situation. All of pivots off the basic Kite concept, then the issue is thinning it and setting up the action to be rageo friendly.
And some other slightly different concepts work, Manolo with his I think Ramirez classical with flamenco action, and the Rodriguez style similar to the Ramirez with the long diagonal bar, those can make flamencos too, but I find it much harder to get them to work.
I think where the break happened is with the French, Bouchet was himself a flamenco player, but he made that laterally braced top and that’s slightly different. The other break in my opinion was Daniel Friederich, his nature style of bracing isn’t flamenco friendly, but that’s just my opinion. Fleta is veering away from flamenco friendly bracing, but it could argued he’s still working off of the Kite situation, but his work is too robust and over built to be a good flamenco point of departure.
In my opinion Friederich was the important break rom Torres, but still in the family. The alien is the monster from Oz.
The lattice, mala leche from the koala - makes my skin crawl
The pudding head forum isn’t awake and breathing, so they’d never get it. The moderators told me to stop making ‘provocative’ posts. Evidently you aren’t as allowed to make analogies between guitar making and zen meditation because it’s ‘religious speech’. I very politely and not in a condescending manner told them to shove their own heads up their a$$es. And given the stupidity that flows like a mighty stream of incoherence and false information that the moderators cannot distinguish from hard won knowledge, it felt pretty good. 😂 the difference between here and there is that if a quorum of knowledgeable people think someone is full of BS, Simon let’s the knowledgeable folks take down the BS by interrogating it. Over there they enable the BS and false information because they have some naive notion that show biz is a democracy. The music world is performance based, you don’t get to vote unless you do the hard work. In politics I’m liberal, in art it’s a performance based grade.
Now that that’s done….
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