So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop)

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Fawkes -> So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Dec. 21 2022 6:53:38)
Orientation for anyone not familiar with the use of the term around this forum: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=135815&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#272061

Ricardo -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Dec. 21 2022 15:44:31)
It doesn’t really describe anything…it is purely subjective the way she puts it. However, Anders and others around here swear it is an objective “thing” they build into the top. I honestly never understood it myself as different than “action”, (as translated and as she measures it) as in over the fingerboard, or the height of the strings down at the bridge. I got to try new style Ramirez flamencos at NAMM 2018. They made a beautiful catalogue book that I still have, and it is cool to see the old Jose I “tablao” guitar reissued, after having read about it as the old “standard” flamenco guitar before Manuel Ramirez took over the market. The guitars I played were not great. In fact, I have not met anybody that uses Ramirez flamenco guitars post Ramirez III (before early 1990’s). There was a young lady in college that had a Ramirez B model but it was likely also from Ramirez III or early IV. Anybody know any users of the new models??? I eventually changed my opinion in the linked thread above…feeling that it was Ander’s opinion and others gravitated toward it. http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=313204&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=pulsation&tmode=&smode=&s=#313217

Fawkes -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Dec. 21 2022 18:04:56)
Thanks Ricardo. I should have dug around for more recent discussion about it, especially since I've been gone for ages.

estebanana -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Dec. 21 2022 23:19:22)
If you’re shopping for a guitar and the term pulsacion comes up, you’re in the wrong kind of store.

devilhand -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Feb. 3 2023 10:46:41)
In this video she has to choose between 2 pianos for her concert. At 5:20 the guy tells her she can choose the piano for her concert if the action is good for her. If you follow the video carefully at 5:40-6:15 she ends up choosing that piano because it has warmer sound with lots of tone colors etc. So a clear anology with the sound of classical guitar. She didn't choose the other piano because of its edgy and bright sound with a fast attack. In other words it sounded flamenco to her. LoL Does anyone have idea what is the action on piano? How can we measure it? I believe it has again to do with pulsation. Recall the distinction between soft and hard pulsation.

Fawkes -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Feb. 3 2023 17:56:44)
Perceived action on a piano has to do with weight of touch (what it takes to depress a key), depth of touch (how far the key is pressed when different things happen like the release of the hammer and end of travel), and subtleties to do with the timing and speed of recovery of the mechanism which is noticed in things like trills and fast repeated notes. I do not recall whether that 'recovery' issue necessarily ties in with weight or depth of touch. What professional players focus on for a given instrument tends to be a bit rarified compared to the awareness of the hoi polloi, but more to the point it also varies. Great technicians will give up a little ease for the sake of tone color. This is especially noticeable in the violin world, and, if I remember correctly, was part of the equation that led great pianists to have favorite Steinways when the locale of a concert allowed them to have their pick.

constructordeguitarras -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Feb. 3 2023 22:47:49)
I want to point out the draw knives hanging on the wall behind her. I use one for roughing out the shape of the neck and it would appear that I am not the only one. [:D]

estebanana -> RE: So this is odd (pulsación at the Ramirez shop) (Feb. 3 2023 22:58:40)
Please stop with stupid thread

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