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Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Dec. 29 2022 1:47:02)

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I listened on a nice Yamaha shelf system with a subwoofer about six times all the way through the toggled back and forth to get a better idea about their differences.


Thanks for listening! Yeah, it takes your breath away for a second when you first pick up the guitar. I still can't imagine what 850 would feel like!

Thanks again for the offer. I need to trot it around for a bit but I'm sure I'll be ready to let it go at some point.




JasonM -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Dec. 29 2022 15:04:34)

Ok having another listen I take back what I said before, but still prefer the traditional guitar. I think it sounds more “woody”.

Having a super light guitar on the hands is cool! Makes you feel like you can play it faster!




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Dec. 29 2022 17:40:56)

Thanks for the feedback Jason. I was very skeptical that a double top flamenco would work, and it certainly won't be everyone's cup of tea. But I'm glad I tried it and it wasn't a complete disaster.




Joan Maher -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Feb. 7 2023 11:35:49)

Very nice Andy it definitely sounds brighter and so light!!




JasonM -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Feb. 7 2023 17:05:40)

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I was very skeptical that a double top flamenco would work, and it certainly won't be everyone's cup of tea. But I'm glad I tried it and it wasn't a complete disaster.


Totally! This was your first double top flamenco? I remember seeing those old videos of Jason Mcguire playing double top Glen Canin. That was the first time I heard of double top.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Feb. 21 2023 23:51:34)

Thanks Joan!

Jason, yep it was the first one. I've been making double top classical fairly regularly since 2020 though.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 9 2023 2:00:30)

Maestro Jason McGuire gets his hands on La Pluma! Man, what a nice guy...




Pgh_flamenco -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 9 2023 16:34:11)

High praise from Jason and his picado has improved. I hope he posts another video of this guitar in a few weeks...


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ORIGINAL: Andy Culpepper

Maestro Jason McGuire gets his hands on La Pluma! Man, what a nice guy...





Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 10 2023 1:52:00)

Yup I think he is going to spend a couple of weeks with it and then post a more comprehensive review. Definitely looking forward to that.




Firefrets -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 10 2023 11:00:45)

Well done Andy. I think even I could make that thing sound great, but that guy is a proper player and it sounds spot on in his hands. Fantastic.




orsonw -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 10 2023 14:45:17)

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ORIGINAL: Andy Culpepper

Maestro Jason McGuire gets his hands on La Pluma! Man, what a nice guy...



Sounds great, I like the dryness/low sustain. Are you going to keep this one for yourself?
(Now that your experiment has turned out so well, pity that it doesn't have one of your beautiful handmade rosettes.)




Echi -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 10 2023 17:29:48)

That rosette is a copy of an old Ramirez III rosette I saw it on a guitar made in 1958.
Lester DeVoe used the same pre-made rosette for many years and I admit I myself have used it for the first couple of guitars I made, many years ago.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 10 2023 18:34:38)

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Well done Andy. I think even I could make that thing sound great, but that guy is a proper player and it sounds spot on in his hands. Fantastic.


Jason is a monster player, no doubt about it. His playing is instantly recognizable too.

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Sounds great, I like the dryness/low sustain. Are you going to keep this one for yourself?
(Now that your experiment has turned out so well, pity that it doesn't have one of your beautiful handmade rosettes.)


We will see, he wants to keep it for a bit at least and I would be happy not to have to ship it back if he stays as enamored with it.

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That rosette is a copy of an old Ramirez III rosette I saw it on a guitar made in 1958.
Lester DeVoe used the same pre-made rosette for many years and I admit I myself have used it for the first couple of guitars I made, many years ago.


It's a nice one. I had a Navarro student blanca years ago that gj Michelob ordered with the same rosette. There is something classic about an actual rose design. I had it lying around and figured why not just stick it on, for an experimental build [8D]




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 11 2023 1:57:37)

More videos 👀













Ricardo -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 11 2023 16:25:30)

Nice! What strings are you using?




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 11 2023 17:21:28)

D‘addario EJ45. The “boiled carrots” of guitar strings as one customer of mine put it.




silddx -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 11 2023 19:49:19)

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Maestro Jason McGuire gets his hands on La Pluma! Man, what a nice guy...


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How fabulous! You must be feeling really nice after receiving this video!




ernandez R -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 12 2023 9:06:37)

I just want Jason to record an hour long demo on her… I despise the YouTube formate :/

Say, have you started another Pluma? What would you do diferently?

Oh ya, did you mention her scale length upthread and I missed it.

HR




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 12 2023 17:36:38)

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How fabulous! You must be feeling really nice after receiving this video!


Absolutely! He seems to think it is really something special, though I do want to try to pry out his honest thoughts after having it for a week and comparing it to all his other guitars.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Apr. 12 2023 17:39:36)

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I just want Jason to record an hour long demo on her… I despise the YouTube formate :/

Say, have you started another Pluma? What would you do diferently?

Oh ya, did you mention her scale length upthread and I missed it.

HR


I have not started another one yet. I probably won't for a while unless I get an order for one. Honestly I would probably do everything the same except for the rosette :) I might try using a solid back. Oh it is my standard 655 scale.




ernandez R -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (May 16 2023 3:24:24)

When Andy first started this project, La Pluma, I sent him a pm and mentioned I would like to have her. Anyway after a few stops here and there she is now in my hands, still fresh but not a young voice, give me a couple months, enough time to crush a few sets of wound strings, then I’ll come clean with my impressions.

Fit and finish are perfect, all the angles etc, easy rolling rosgiao, so easy to play…blew off my index nail working just before she showed, then my middle a few days later…

HR




RobF -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (May 16 2023 4:43:20)

Congrats on your new geetar, HR! [sm=Smiley Guitar.gif]




orsonw -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (May 16 2023 11:22:39)

Congratulations HR!
I must admit that guitar had me wanting it. But I really do not need another guitar- at least not right now!




ArrizzaMusic_11763 -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Feb. 23 2024 11:24:55)

I have been watchin El Rubio's vids on his trying out the Pluma, I have to say this is such a beast of a guitar! Very ballsy with lots of punch and bite. I think he really wanted it by his enthusiasm over it. Yet again, another incredible build by the maestro, Andy Culpepper.




ernandez R -> RE: Ultralight Flamenco (Feb. 24 2024 3:58:26)

Told myself I would write up a review once I had a polished the silver off couple sets of strings, just about done with one set of stewed carrots (see upthread) and needto put on my standard, Augustine Blue high tension, then give it a go.

Sat down after seeing the last post on this thread with AC’s Pluma today and spent about an hour going back and forth with my latest light weight 666mm flamenca, trying to constructively describe the differences. Ha! Only thing I could come up with was the difference between your grandmothers apple pie and your great aunt, both were taught by your great grandmother, one has prettier crust and the other perfect apple slices. None of these make it taste better of course. And ya they don’t taste the same but they both taste great…

Of course Andy’s setup is impeccable and mine not quite there, same for his fit and finish, of course. The shorter 655mm of his is noticeable but not sure it’s the strings the scale or how we braced our tops, mine is not double top but there are some strips of 30k CF tow laterally in lew of a bridge patch and a couple more too

… ok this is what I’m thinking, Andy’s Pluma is more full and mine is more crisp. The Pluma has a nice bottom end grawl while mine is just as deep only a touch sharper, think mean bulldog verses Doberman.

I mentioned somewhere playing a Cullpepper is like a Farrieri race car…


HR




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