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Miguel de Maria -> The difference between tempos (Oct. 19 2003 23:46:05)

I have recently come across an intersting concept, that each tempo is a different animal and must be practiced seperately. According to this philosophy, there is a slightly different motion and sensation while practicing each tempo. This could be interpreted as categories such as real slow, slow, medium, fast, real fast, or as extreme as each bpm being slightly different. If you accept this, than it follows that fast tempos aren't necessary "hard," they are just different. And real slow tempos would then not necessarily be easier than a medium tempo. According to my source, the two elements of playing are the actual motion data, that is familiarity with the movement, and second familiarity with the actual tempo you are playing. If you neglect this sort of practice, your slow playing will be wobbly and inconsistent, and your fast playing clunky. The reasoning seemed logical to me, so I'm going to incorporate some exercises at each tempo to see if it makes a difference. Last night I did a bunch of work with the metronome and it seems to make sense.

By the way, if anyone is interested, my source is NEY from the guitarprinciples forum.



Florian -> RE: The difference between tempos (Oct. 20 2003 0:23:11)

makes sense



Jon Boyes -> RE: The difference between tempos (Oct. 20 2003 10:06:45)

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ORIGINAL: Michael W Cho

I have recently come across an intersting concept, that each tempo is a different animal and must be practiced seperately. According to this philosophy, there is a slightly different motion and sensation while practicing each tempo.


Sounds like the discussion we were having recently. I certainly agree that the fingers move differently when moving slowly compared to great speed, and that it makes sense to practice at speed if you are trying to learn a fast passage (but working on much smaller chunks at a time).

I've been hackin away at some of PDLs runs recently (using a pick for the right hand, I might add). Terrifying stuff.. I had a fair bit of success with the above method but still it wasn't 'meshing' when I tried to play the whole run. Then I added in Scot Tennant's idea of introducing accents to help 'group' the notes together in your mind. Wow! I'd forgotten how powerful this stuff was - big improvement.

Another couple of years and I might manage to get the whole run down cold.[:D]

Jon



Miguel de Maria -> RE: The difference between tempos (Oct. 20 2003 14:54:19)

I saw on your website that you were playing Entre dos Aguas. Hey, that kind of stuff impresses me! Do you nail those runs?



Jon Boyes -> RE: The difference between tempos (Oct. 20 2003 15:25:10)

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ORIGINAL: Michael W Cho
I saw on your website that you were playing Entre dos Aguas. Hey, that kind of stuff impresses me! Do you nail those runs?


I can play all of that piece pretty much note for note. There are two very fast runs in it, at the beginning of the Em section where it speeds up, and those are precisely the runs I've been working on. Actually its really one long run, which he plays part of the first time, then all of it the second time (if you listen to it you'll see what I mean.)

Up to now I've been bluffing them, but I'd like to nail them because they really burn, and Paco uses that run quite a bit.

..so in answer to your question, not not quite, but getting there![;)]

Don't forget I'm using a pick though! [&:] I couldn't get anywhere near Paco speed with my fingers.

Jon



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