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Morante -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 16:48:27)

Hace 20 años, Cádiz era así. Ahora no vale ná. Flamenco está muriendose: aquí está muerto. Viva Jerez, por 10 o 15 años. Ojalá.




kitarist -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 17:10:04)





orsonw -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 20:13:00)

For what it's worth here are Google data for search terms, 2004 to now.
Interest in Flamenco is down (as well as really any type of music with any history like jazz, blues, etc.. Even searches for the topic 'music' are down).



Interest in anxiety and pain are up.





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Stu -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 20:27:09)

Jesus Christ! That's horrible. 😄

Also what was the spike in Beethoven interest? Anniversary of his death?




orsonw -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 20:51:30)

quote:

Jesus Christ! That's horrible. 😄


Hi Stu

Hope and compassion are also up.



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kitarist -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 20:55:26)

quote:

Also what was the spike in Beethoven interest? Anniversary of his death?


Google made a [musical puzzle] doodle for his 245th birthday/baptism on Dec 17, 2015 [:D]




Mark2 -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 23 2022 22:57:56)

It's funny, as someone who surfs, I, as well as most folks who have been at it a while, lament the increase in surfing's popularity, as the folks who took up the pastime during the pandemic have diminished the experience. Large numbers of these newbies got to work from home, and having hordes of unskilled people in the water was/is a nightmare. A disaster.

As far as flamenco, I have accepted the fact that I have an interest, bordering on obsession, with an obscure art form, and I'm ok with it.

I've been playing the guitar with professional musicians for more than forty years, but I have almost no interest in playing with the community I'm part of, because they don't play flamenco.

My skills in flamenco are not at a professional level, so that regulates me to the status of an amateur, and I'm fine with that too.

Flamenco's lack of popularity doesn't matter to me, as it doesn't affect my level of interest. For professionals in Spain, different story.

I do somewhat understand it. The compas and the cante are not easily appreciated by most people, and even those with a casual interest don't come close to understanding what is happening. Heck, after thirty five years of interest and study, there are many things I don't understand either.

When I learn a new falseta that has some crazy syncopation, or figure out some obscure detail about cante accompaniment, I'm alone with my satisfaction.

I never anticipated this scenario, but here I am. With a handful of you guys on the foro....




Ricardo -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 24 2022 7:56:21)

I just visited flamenco vive in madrid. They expanded into two locations (music/books etc and the other place has costumes and dance crap [:D]). The best part was the huge expansion of the vinyl record section….I could have spent all day there picking up records to buy but siesta kicked me out at 2 pm. I got my hands on Escuderos album where he plays the Hauser guitar. A 45 of young Paco with Sevillano por fandango that is exquisite. Tauromagia re-issue on vinyl. Man, it was very inspiring after hanging with aficionados in Sanlucar. I have a feeling this vinyl resurgence will keep going, perhaps reignite the music industry and reverse some of the internet Spotify damage.




Stu -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 24 2022 12:29:18)

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Hi Stu

Hope and compassion are also up.


Jesus Christ! Thats wonderful!![:)]




davewphx -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 24 2022 19:48:36)

When did you go Ricardo? Post some pictures if possible. Did you see any albums of Porrina de Badajoz? Not sure if he was heavily recorded. I recently got an amazon compilation disk thats excellent. Love that guys voice.




Ricardo -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 25 2022 18:48:28)

July I was there with Gerardo Nuñez. There was a 15 year old kid who played great, loved to accompany the cante. He knew me from YouTube and had learned the Niño Ricardo falseta we used as a challenge years ago. I posted the video Frevo with my friend Chris. Yes tons of Porrina records where there, he is super famous. I already have two CDs and we have a great discussion about his bulerias based on Portuguese Fado that one member knew the original source very well.

Frevo
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=341722&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=frevo&tmode=&smode=&s=#341722

Fado
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=324856&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=fado%2Cporrina&tmode=&smode=&s=#324962




davewphx -> RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjsSl3o_o4 (Aug. 25 2022 20:14:16)

Cool Fado link Ricardo, thanks I hadnt seen that post. Lots of material to listen to.




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