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Richard Jernigan -> RE: New flamenco series 'Caminos Flamencos' RTVE (Apr. 16 2022 22:13:30)
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There are Spanish subtitles. Click on the little icon at the lower right corner of the video frame.
Having learned Spanish from "educated" south Texans and Mexicans, I sometimes have trouble with the andalú of my generation. Morente and Poveda, one generation younger, speak fairly standard castellano, comfortable for me.
I've only watched the first few minutes of the video. This thread seems mildly ironic to me: members of a foro predominantly attuned the the avant garde of flamenco guitar dissing the "modernization" of cante.
I like Manuel Torre, Antonio Chacon, La Niña de los Peines, her brother Tomas Pavón, Agujetas father and son, Terremoto padre (haven't listened to hijo), Manolo Caracol, Mairena....the good ones all way up to Camarón. I liked Rocio Márquez's early Youtube video, accompanied on guitar by her teacher, but it was just a note-by-note copy of Chacon. I have read complaints about Márquez's "modern" or "pop" stuff, but I haven't heard it, so I can't judge. Nor can I say anything about the video, since I haven't watched more than a few minutes.
Rosalía isn't even flamenco-adjacent these days. She is to be judged by different criteria, ones I don't possess, since I never got into MTV and stopped listening to the radio when I moved to the Marshall Islands in 1991. Never got back into pop.
I know that Paco said, "I am flamenco, so what I play is flamenco." If you're familiar with Niño Ricardo, you can still hear echoes, very much transformed in harmony and rhythm, even in Paco's latest albums.
In the early '60s I met Spaniards at the club Zambra in New York City who thought Sabicas was way too modern. Meanwhile Sabicas was churning out LP's, giving lots of solo concerts, occasionally working with cuadros, including Carmen Amaya's, and coining money. When Sabicas would turn up for an after-hours juerga at Zambra, a handful of hard-line old-school aficionados would leave.
When I was still in high school 1951-55 I read Downbeat magazine. It was the heyday of bebop, with a dash of "West Coast". The critics were divided into warring camps of "traditional" and "modern." West Coast was assigned to the modern camp.
There was a regular column interviewing Louis Armstrong on the latest jazz records. Occasionally he would criticize a musician's technique. He would offer off the cuff analyses of composition and improvisation, but I don't remember any complaints from Louis about "modernization," which was rampant.
No criticism of posters in this thread is intended nor implied. I would probably dislike some of the "modern" stuff if I listened to it. Poor technique promoted as the latest and greatest always deserves to receive some stick.
RNJ
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