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gerundino63 -> Sustain or playability (Jan. 30 2022 15:53:22)

I always have a dillema.
What is your thought on this for solo playing, control vs sound:

A blanca with long sustain “cathedralic” sound. And lesser control.

Or a blanca with shorter sustain, “lesser” sound, and better control.

Ofcourse, sound is subjective, maybe control for the pro’s too, but you get what i mean. (I hope😃)




mrstwinkle -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 10:54:54)

Is cathedralic ('concert grade'?) predominantly a feature of the body depth of the guitar?

Depends what you're playing I suspect. Mineras / tarantas usually work better with the sustain IMO.

Realistically, I suspect most guitars if playing in public are going to be massively affected by hall echo, so more control is preferable if live. In a recording studio, bring several guitars...




Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 12:30:53)

This is why every flamenco guitarist has two guitars minimum [:D]




gerundino63 -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 13:06:37)

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ORIGINAL: mrstwinkle

Is cathedralic ('concert grade'?) predominantly a feature of the body depth of the guitar?



A lot of things together, wood, top, weight, plantilla. But in general, a “bigger little heavyer guitar”




gerundino63 -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 13:08:35)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

This is why every flamenco guitarist has two guitars minimum [:D]


But witch would jou prefer for a gig?




Morante -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 16:28:09)

You have a Gerundino. Play it near the bridge and you have a great flamenco. Play it near the soundhole and you have a great classical. What more could you ask for?[:D][:D]




Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Jan. 31 2022 18:05:40)

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ORIGINAL: gerundino63

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

This is why every flamenco guitarist has two guitars minimum [:D]


But witch would jou prefer for a gig?


Which gig? Blanca for accompaniment, negra for solo. But it doesn’t really matter.




mrstwinkle -> RE: Sustain or playability (Feb. 1 2022 15:41:19)

Taking my guitarist hat off - as a listener - non-concert blanca.

Amplification adds boom.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Sustain or playability (Feb. 2 2022 7:29:31)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

This is why every flamenco guitarist has two guitars minimum [:D]


About three years ago I had three guitars at my brother's house showing them to one of his grown grandsons.

My sister-in-law asked me how many guitars I had. When I told her she asked, "Why do you need six guitars?"

I answered, "Well...you don't really need six guitars."

Now I have seven.

I suspect there may be people on the Foro who have more.

RNJ




Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Feb. 2 2022 12:14:08)

It is a no brainer.



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devilhand -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 12:46:31)

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Or a blanca with shorter sustain, “lesser” sound, and better control

Is it the typical sound of flamenco guitar?





Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 15:18:24)

Low action and compressed audio, but otherwise, yes.

The cante, not really. (Titty tramb tramb tramb??? [:D])




orsonw -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 15:44:18)

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Is it the typical sound of flamenco guitar?


Yes. Are you considering buying your first flamenco guitar? Antonio Carrion is playing a Manuel Reyes.




Morante -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 16:01:55)

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Antonio Carrion is playing a Manuel Reyes.


Hace tiempo toca un Robert Ruck.




JasonM -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 17:19:52)

The one Gerundino Blanca I ever played had that big, bold, sustain sound. It was like the opposite of a Madrid Blanca sound.




orsonw -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 7 2022 17:30:09)

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Hace tiempo toca un Robert Ruck.


Yes, seems it is his main guitar for a few years now.




He still gets the Reyes out sometimes e.g. here in April 2021




AndresK -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 9 2022 7:36:41)

This is also the typical microphone for a flamenco guitar at that day, the AKG c535




devilhand -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 11 2022 17:17:25)

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Yes. Are you considering buying your first flamenco guitar? Antonio Carrion is playing a Manuel Reyes.

I have a nice guitar. Set up and sound are better than any student guitar on the market today. Besides, I'm still practicing techniques, which will take me another 1 or 2 years to master.

Btw, another guitar with dull strings. What guitar does Tomatito play here?





orsonw -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 11 2022 23:11:20)

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Btw, another guitar with dull strings. What guitar does Tomatito play here?

Conde.




constructordeguitarras -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 6:04:30)

For me it's a trade off between playability and no buzzing. And a matter of raising or lowering the bridge saddle.




kitarist -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 6:50:42)

hehe



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gerundino63 -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 9:49:29)

Well, I sold most guitars. Trying not to buy other ones anymore 😜

End up with two.

Long sustain blanca, with a firm 3mm set up, and a shorter sustain negra with al “just under 3 mm” Set up.




orsonw -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 10:38:46)

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What guitar does Tomatito play here?


I think he is using the same guitar here? Before it got as beaten up as in the bulerias video.





Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 11:36:49)

If not a new guitar, at least some gear?



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Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 11:51:05)

Carrion was not a stranger to Condes either:



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orsonw -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 14:00:32)

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Carrion was not a stranger to Condes either:


At one time both Condes and mullets were ubiquitous.





Morante -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 16:21:52)

Can anyone identify the guitarra de Quique?




JasonM -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 17:36:19)

Its one of those tacky half and halfs!




davewphx -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 12 2022 19:37:47)

That Nativity set, and shooting star meme is cracking me up. Those r keepers. Orsonw and jasonm also cheering me up at my depressing job. Thanks guys! 😊




Ricardo -> RE: Sustain or playability (Dec. 13 2022 14:59:20)

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Can anyone identify the guitarra de Quique?


The Barba of Seville. [:D]




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