tf10music -> RE: Tanguillos - one of my favorite forms (Feb. 12 2021 18:38:56)
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Poem or verse has rhythm. Doesn't matter whether it's sung with or without accompaniment. This is categorically untrue. Poems can (but do not always) have meter. Poems do not have rhythm in and of themselves, though they can suggest rhythm with the use of metrical elements, syllabic emphasis, syllabic length, pause, enjambment, caesura, etc. When a poem is read aloud, it can be delivered with a specific rhythm, but it does not HAVE that rhythm; another person could recite it completely differently. I suppose that you could argue that a poem would have rhythm any way it is recited, even if it is not interacting with a pulse and dividing time accordingly. Based on that definition, though, literally every interval between anything ever is part of a rhythmic relation (this is actually something that the philosopher Gilles Deleuze argues). But unless you are willing to make the claim that every possible phenomenon is in the midst of a rhythmic relation no matter how disjointed or discontinuous that relation might be, I don't think your understanding of rhythm stands the test of scrutiny. And if that is what you are claiming about rhythm, then you are really making a more salient claim about the relation between bodies, temporality and spatiality, which is what Deleuze himself was doing. You're certainly not contributing anything that will help us understand the way a piece of music is working.
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