Piwin -> RE: Flamenco beginner :) (Dec. 29 2020 23:48:04)
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Oh, and about your question, I guess it sort of depends on what you want to do. I'm no expert, but I'd say that looking for guitar melodies with chord progressions to match them might work if you want to start with rumba, but it may be a bit less suitable for other palos. So dunno. It's not my forte, but if rumba is what you want to start with, then I think you're probably on the right track by listening to the Gipsy Kings. I can't really help you there, but I'd imagine you can find different chord progressions to work with by working your way through their repertoire. I guess the thing is that rumba is a bit of an outlier. You'll even hear some voices who feel so strongly about it that they'll insist that it's not flamenco at all. I personally wouldn't go that far (besides, who cares what you call it really? ^^), but I do think it's a bit of an outlier in terms of how the music is structured and how you would go about learning it. For other palos it might be better to look at some of the structural aspects first. Dunno. In my case the first thing I learned was how to play a basic compas in solea. I then got a few variations on it, but none of it really qualifies as melody per se. Really just different ways to express rhythm. Then I learned a few falsetas, which are indeed melodic, and then just learned to switch back and forth between the basic compas and those falsetas. And honestly for the first few months it was almost all E-F, and a bit of Am, C and G, but that's it. So it wasn't really about looking for a diversity of chord progressions, but instead about exploring different things to do within the basic chord progression of solea. So it's a bit different than how you might approach, say, folk music or jazz. Another option might be to get right away into accompaniment, where you can approach it as "here's a sung melody and the chord progression to accompany it", but be warned that it's one deep rabbit hole. Here's an excellent page on cante por solea: http://canteytoque.es/soleares.htm Here's some free stuff from Manuel Granados (technical exercises, and then at the very bottom two links to an English version of a text with a bit more explanation on palos, etc. Worth noting that a lot of people wouldn't necessarily agree with his music theory explanations though, so perhaps best to just use it for the basic explanations and the scores): https://www.manuelgranados.net/estudios-descargas/ He's my go-to guy for technical exercises (and Escribano is absolutely right IMO that focusing on developing right-hand technique is really important at the beginning). You might also check out youtube pages like Atrafana, where I think he has a lot of free stuff on basic technique. Anyway, dunno if any of that is helpful. It's just what came to mind when reading your post. Welcome to the foro!
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