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JBASHORUN -> SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 6 2006 18:07:46)

Just been watching the Sabicas DVD, and I have to admit that the dude is pretty good! I think I like the first song the best. One thing though, I noticed he used quite a bit of harmonics in his playing. By harmonics, I mean "natural" harmonics. There was one song where he played a whole phrase just using harmonics. Personally, I find it quite difficult to get a harmonic out of most frets, apart from 5, 7 and 12, but he seemed pretty good at it. So are harmonics widely used in Flamenco, and if so, can someone point out a few examples that I might hear it in?


Cheers,

Jb




rick -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 6 2006 18:21:30)

if yr thining of zapatadeo he used harmonics quite a bit in that. listen to randy rhodes and van halen for extensive use of harmonic, I cant tell you if it is common in flamenco, Sabicas used them a little in the Lecuno version of malaguena as well. IT is fairly common in classical and the technique is a little different than electric but fun to play with.




Ron.M -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 6 2006 20:10:15)

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So are harmonics widely used in Flamenco,

No, James even less so than tremolo these days...
In the old days, when the Gypsies used to dance around the campfire, there was really nothing more than guitarists playing harmonics, that was the main thing.
But these days not I'm afraid..
In fact, apart from Zapateado en Re, I can't really think of another...
Probably Carlos Montoya does it, but I don't have those albums.

[:D][:D]

Ron




ricecrackerphoto -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 6 2006 22:05:56)

i thought he was playing artificial harmonics in video. then again i haven't seen that DVD in a while, lent it out a long time ago.

doug




JBASHORUN -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 7 2006 14:48:00)

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i thought he was playing artificial harmonics in video.


You may be right. Its hard to see his fingers whilst he's actually doing the technique. But I thought natural harmonics were touched above the fret, then plucked, whereas artifical ones were fretted, plucked then "clipped" with another finger. But if you're right, it might explain why he does it so easily...


Jb




rick -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 7 2006 15:07:45)

you ca do both depending on the fret and fingering




Richard Jernigan -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 17 2006 6:52:23)

"But if you're right, it might explain why he does it so easily... "

I spent quite a few hours watching Sabicas up close, during after hours juergas at Fidel Zabal's night club La Zambra in Manhattan in the early '60s. Sabicas did everything easily. Even stuff that was impossible for normal humans, like his machine gun picado where the left hand could go anywhere on the fingerboard without breaking rhythm, or his rasgueados where you couldn't follow which fingers were doing what, because they were just a blur. The most impressive thing about watching Sabicas (not about listening to him) was that everything always looked easy all the time.

RNJ




ToddK -> RE: SABICAS... & HARMONICS (Mar. 17 2006 7:07:22)

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I have to admit that the dude is pretty good!


[8D][8D] Yeah, i guess he's ok.[:D][:D]




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