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mark indigo -> my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 0:52:05)

Steve made this guitar for me in february/march this year and I went down and picked it up from his workshop just before the lockdown. It's his "Soleá" model, the budget version with minimal/no decoration. He made one for me two years ago and I wanted another one, partly as a spare/second guitar, and partly with a few tweaks to the specs.





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mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 0:58:43)

All the pics were taken upright, and look upright on desktop, but have rotated themselves anticlockwise on post, no idea why. Also the identical flecks of something on all the pics must be some crud on my phone's camera....





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mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 0:59:49)

really basic no frills, no roses rosette.



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mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 1:00:54)

The pegs are Wittner mechanical pegs. Heavier than wooden pegs but lighter than machine heads, and tune perfectly.





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mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 1:02:34)

Side view. really low action. Guitar is light and really easy to play.





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JasonM -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 14:18:29)

Nice. It’s strange seeing a finish with what looks to be perfectly clear with no tint.

Does he contract these out or just choose not to sign the label ?




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 15:03:23)

what would a "tint" be? adding colour to the finish? like an orange conde?[:D]

It is just a basic french polish to the wood. He does it all himself.

As I understand it the rationale of the "budget" version is that the materials and construction are the same as the concert model. No decoration, veneer, purfling etc., a basic concentric ring rosette, and only a really basic french polish to protect the wood.

As most of the cost of the guitar is labour the cost is less than half what he charges for a concert guitar.

He sent me only a few pics this time, but the other one I got from him in 2018 he sent me loads of pics every day. He started the guitar on a monday morning and finished it on the friday afternoon. The following week he polished it. Took about 2 weeks total. This one took longer to finish as he had to put mine aside half way through and make a few other guitars. I wasn't in a hurry so that was fine with me.




Ricardo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 16:30:04)

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He started the guitar on a monday morning and finished it on the friday afternoon. The following week he polished it. Took about 2 weeks total.


See that, time to step it up Jason! [:D]

Beautiful guitar !




Auda -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 19:24:56)

That looks really nice and it must be light as it looks to be levitating in the last 2 shots. I am curious as to why it is easy to play. Is it due to the low action and/or is there something in addition?

Cheers




orsonw -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 16 2020 20:55:55)

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Does he contract these out or just choose not to sign the label ?


He has a thread showing how he builds one of these.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=261713&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=student%2Cmodel




JasonM -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 17 2020 1:34:48)

2 weeks! [:-] JasonM can’t even sharpen his scrapers in that amount of time. Hats off to maestro Eden.

Mark I though it was maybe a sprayed lacquer finish without any color added. It’s probably the lighting of the pics plus the pale shellac but I can see now where it doesn’t have that super glossy look of lacquer




Echi -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 17 2020 12:16:09)

This looks like a very good deal indeed.
How does it sound like? Is it a kind of light and percussive flamenco guitar?
I know it’s difficult to tell by word, but It’s just to have an idea.




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 17 2020 18:04:53)

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How does it sound like? Is it a kind of light and percussive flamenco guitar?

yes, light and percussive. responsive. I made a coupla rough vids on my phone just now but they are too big to upload, about 140/150MB. Is there a thread somewhere on how to smallify vid files for upload? any ideas?




Echi -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 8:19:17)

I’m not an expert but I would just upload the video as it is on YouTube or in a cloud like Dropbox or OneDrive and then share the link here.




mrstwinkle -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 10:33:50)

Slap them on youtube....




mrstwinkle -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 10:50:57)

Interesting guitar in a brutally minmalist way. Were the pegs an extra fee?




rombsix -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 14:33:11)

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That looks really nice and it must be light as it looks to be levitating in the last 2 shots.


My thoughts precisely! [:D]




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 14:48:48)

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Interesting guitar in a brutally minmalist way. Were the pegs an extra fee?

brutally minimalist![:D] - yeah it is minimalist. I paid separately for the pegs, but Steve knocked some off the price for the guitar.




Stephen Eden -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 15:22:25)

Cheers Mark, Glad to see it again. How does it compare to your first if I might be so bold to ask? I must admit I really enjoyed playing that one!

JasonM - It is just a pale shellac finish I vert rarely add a tint as I prefer to let the wood naturally colour. If you leave it of the case and on a stand for a year it will look just the same and be easier to repair finsh damage. Two weeks is pretty slow compared to my best time. On the classical model I used to be able to start on a Monday and have it strung up by 5pm on Friday! I've made over 100 those now!

I choose not to sign the label on these ones. I once had an idea that I could have other people help build them but after a few trials I gave up on that idea as it usually costs more than just doing the work myself. I've kept up the tradition though as a marker that this is the cheaper model. I still sign the soundboard though.

Mrstwinkle - Mark provided the pegs so I didn't charge him extra in general though I charge an extra £50 for them as they are that much more expensive than the Schaller Grandtunes I use otherwise.

Brutally minimal indeed. This is how the price it so much lower than my top guitars. £1800!




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 18 2020 23:33:40)

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Slap them on youtube....


First one here, fluffs n all. Took about 3 hours to upload, my internet connection is hopeless.

https://youtu.be/ILZfKoEfksU




Richard Jernigan -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 3:06:15)

Sounds great, Mark!

RNJ




Ruphus -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 11:34:03)

The recording seems not to allow for hearing subtleties like depth and overtones, but good separation of the notes indicates that partials and fundamentals ought to be well aligned anyway. And the balance across the neck leaves nothing to be desired for sure.

Said playability, I suppose, coming at least partially from soft pulsation, that may be rather typical for light guitars, both of which I like very much.

A very appealing example for what is a good guitar without costing an arm & a leg! And the no frills optics do have their very own charme.

Quite an instance for how pitying the choice of buyers is who commonly seek for a flamenca among student guitars of popular makes like say Ibanez, Alhambra etc. (boy, have I experienced bulky, heavy duds of those in shops!) for considerably more of money in the same time.

Admiring both, the lengthy and contemplatory building, as well as the super fast, yet proficient production of Stephen Eden (who won´t make a fuzz by pretending lengthy procedure, as he could), his down-to-earth presenting is so sympathetically to me.

Love it!




Echi -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 14:06:35)

Thanks for the video Mark. Great.




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 15:40:33)

Here is the other vid i recorded yesterday, another 3 hour upload....

thanks to all for comments.

I clearly need to a) practise this stuff more, b) practise recording myself more, and c) get the hang of this tech stuff more...





mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 15:55:54)

how did i get that to embed? see if i can get the first one to embed



it worked!




Ricardo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 16:29:17)

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ORIGINAL: mark indigo

Here is the other vid i recorded yesterday, another 3 hour upload....

thanks to all for comments.

I clearly need to a) practise this stuff more, b) practise recording myself more, and c) get the hang of this tech stuff more...




Sounds great, I really like at jerezana material.




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 16:39:32)

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Sounds great, I really like at jerezana material.
thnx [:)]




Auda -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Apr. 19 2020 17:12:26)

Sounds great. Really like the relaxed right hand.

Cheers

Edit: didn't mean to replicate Ricardo's post




Stu -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Jun. 6 2020 11:52:28)

Hadn't seen this. Cool Guitar!

How's it working out Mark? vids sound great!




mark indigo -> RE: my new guitar Stephen Eden 2020 (Jun. 7 2020 16:35:41)

Hi Stu, it's great. thinking i might try to do a comparison video with the other one (2018) as I have played that one for a couple of years now. Since i got the 2020 one i have just played that (apart from when i change strings) as the neck is a bit more comfortable.




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