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Ricardo -> RE: Tremolo (Apr. 30 2020 23:37:26)
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ORIGINAL: Piwin
It's funny how differently people can approach the same thing. Every time they say "but if you take away the thumb", I'm just thinking...but why would you do that?! The thumb is there, so no I isn't repeated. [8D]
Auda's version at least makes more sense in that there actually is more space between two strokes of the same finger. But Sal's version, well, all he's done is switch the I "repeat" for an M "repeat". piamIpIami and now pMaMipMaMi. It's the same thing, except in one case the "repeat" is separated by the thumb and in the other by the ring finger. In fact, if you play a tremolo not as quintuplets but bunched up as grace notes, than the repeat of M with his fingering happens much faster than the repeat of I in standard fingering, so you'd think, as far as a finger "repeating" goes, his version is a lot harder. I mean, if he's more comfortable playing it that way that's great. It's just that explanation of "it's because in the standard version I repeats" that makes no sense to me. [8|]
You are totally correct. With Sal the problem begins from his “decision” to not do apoyando pulgar. Next, at 10:40 he states he was taught pmami by someone and doesn’t understand why all the books print Piami. So right there is the red flag. He doesn’t actually know that it’s a transcription of how the non reading players have been doing it for over a CENTURY, nor WHY they are doing it like that ie, like my beginner/intermediate self and most others, the concept of the technique is backwards. He doesn’t see the grace note heading towards a secure rested thumb note as the PURPOSE of the technique. They all seem to think it’s just like recuerdos de La Alhambra with an awkward extra i stroke forced in for no reason other than it’s “Flamenco”.
This is a typical problem of trying to learn from books ie, via a different discipline. Myself included, it wasn’t until my first Spain trip until I realized what tremolo was about, and how it could be taught with no score. Also, pmpmpm might be easier for some people to get used to, it was for me too at the start, and again it comes from NOT wanting to rest and drag pulgar apoyando as much as I should have. So TIRANDO p m p m is very comfy for people, especially if you come from classical guitar, but if you learn to REST and drag pulgar, the change of angle and feeling makes pipipipi etc much more natural.
From resting p and doing i tirando against that, or any arp combo, stems the concept of the 4 finger leading into the rest and drag thumb...and finally tremolo is easy and natural too for making a melody sustain above the chord and becomes a fun and easy compositional device. But it ALL starts from resting the thumb and getting used that posture and feeling.
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