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One instructor that caught my untrained ear and eye was Ruben Diaz, he seems very knowledgeable in the field and plus him being a student of Paco de Lucia meant he could offer a greatly unique perspective.

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I also contacted a Youtuber by the name of Luciano who I've been subscribed to for a very long time and teaches the style of Vicente Amigo.

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Not trying to throw gasoline on fire but, what is the issue with Ruben Diaz?

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ORIGINAL: hasnoona

Thank you all for your suggestions. I will take all of them into consideration and I appreciate it.

Not trying to throw gasoline on fire but, what is the issue with Ruben Diaz? I searched the forum briefly and could see a few jabs on him here and there in posts but couldn’t quite tell. All I care about is the legitimacy and teaching skills he has to offer are those tainted and is he not an actual student of Paco de Lucia??

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Dear, dear, Ruben.....

What can I say?

What was your motivation for that post?

Or as Florian would say, "How did this play out in your head, man? Did you really think this would suddenly convert people to liking you here?"

Nobody has said you are a rotten guitarist.
On the contrary, folk have applauded your technique and free lessons. (which might account for the popularity of your website also. People love freebies.)

However nobody seems to like your polite but cold personal communication style, nor your desire for self-promotion and your intolerance for any kind of criticizm of your views.

Hence there seems little need for you to be on a discussion Forum, since your opinions are already fixed.

I feel you have joined this site, not for the intention of making friends and discussing stuff with other members, but rather for the purpose of "phishing" for "admirers".

Perhaps you have no need for people to like and respect you just as a person and not for what you can do on the guitar.
Then again, maybe you are so much in awe of yourself that you don't really need anyone else.

To have posted an apology to Jason McGuire and perhaps offered to help out with some of our challenges etc would have at least been a good start.
But instead, you chose to shove your website statistics in our faces to "prove" what a grand and well-known figure you are.

When you shoot yourself in the foot once, well, that could be an unfortunate accident.
But to do it twice in quick succession is just plain stupidity.

I'm sure even Paco de Lucia himself did not get to where he is by insulting his audience.

Anyway, I am moderating your posting as of now, which means your posts will be submitted to one of the Administrators before being published, as you are bringing down the positive mood of the Forum.

I suggest you take a break from here and have a long think about how someone with a superb Flamenco guitar technique like yourself could bomb so badly on one of the most popular English-language Flamenco Forums on the Web.

cheers,

Ron

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"students of Paco de Lucia"

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"students of Paco de Lucia"

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The same applies, with a very few reservations*, to “students of Sabicas”.

*Apparently he did teach a little to earn a crust when he was living in relative poverty in Mexico. Also, I heard that if you told him you were going to record one of his pieces, he would check to make sure that you got it right.

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From what i've Sabicas showed people stuff when he hung out with the guitar bit of food, vino y toque. from what i've heard but did not teach per se, but showed concepts and ideas.

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I hung out at Zambra, a club not far south of Central Park, where Fernando Sirvent was the house guitarist. Sabicas often showed up for the Saturday night juerga which ran from closing time at least until sun-up Sunday morning. Sabicas would be accompanied by an entourage of young men, mostly Spaniards, and one of an assortment of dazzling young blondes.

Sabicas was friendly and conversed with strangers like me. His entourage told me Sabicas always had a guitar in his hands except when he was eating, playing poker, or in bed. They said that if asked, he would slow down and explain something, but he never “taught.”

One of my friends who played in some of the bigger poker games in NYC responded to my questioning with, “Sabicas, Agustin? Oh, little Spanish guy, wears a wig, they call him ‘Gus’? Yeah, he plays—-and wins.”

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ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen

“If there is a guitar in the room, he will play it. For the first hour, it’s wonderful. After two hours, your attention is starting to flag. After four hours, you can’t stand it any more, you have to go out of the room.”

Paco Peña

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Nevertheless, some of Sabicas’ stuff, and some of Mario Escudero’s as well, seems to have rubbed off on Peña

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Nevertheless, some of Sabicas’ stuff, and some of Mario Escudero’s as well, seems to have rubbed off on Peña.

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In 1962 I was stationed at the U.S. Army Aberdeen Proving Ground, north of Baltimore Maryland. If you wore your uniform you could ride the bus to New York City on the weekend for $8. The chief drawback was that when you exited the Port Authority Bus Terminal, the con men following you formed a line half a block long, and if you got into a cab, they gave you the grand tour of Manhattan and tried to charge you accordingly.

I hung out at Zambra, a club not far south of Central Park, where Fernando Sirvent was the house guitarist. Sabicas often showed up for the Saturday night juerga which ran from closing time at least until sun-up Sunday morning. Sabicas would be accompanied by an entourage of young men, mostly Spaniards, and one of an assortment of dazzling young blondes.

Sabicas was friendly and conversed with strangers like me. His entourage told me Sabicas always had a guitar in his hands except when he was eating, playing poker, or in bed. They said that if asked, he would slow down and explain something, but he never “taught.”

One of my friends who played in some of the bigger poker games in NYC responded to my questioning with, “Sabicas, Agustin? Oh, little Spanish guy, flashy diamond ring, wears a wig, they call him ‘Gus’? Yeah, he plays—-and wins.”

RNJ