manlargentina -> Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 4:49:59)
Im a guitar player, and I like flamenco, but i like many other styles too. Im trying to find some groups (instrumental only) that have a flamenco base but incorporating other things too. What do you recommend me ? I preffer instrumental music.
Dudnote -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 5:11:13)
Manolo Sanlucar's Al Viento is a great disk to have in the car.
Ricardo -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 13:00:05)
Start with a list of what you already are familiar with and like.
manlargentina -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 13:08:26)
@Dudnote Thanks, going to check it.
@Ricardo The problem is I dont have an example. But, just that, flamenco with modern touches. The late Paco de Lucia´s conserts could be an example, but more "modern" than that im looking for, anything that have a flamenco base but goes beyond that, im looking to hear.
I mean, maybe about the arrengements, more complex and orchestrated arrengements Ill like to listen. Some variation.
Ricardo -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 14:36:27)
Ok: Manolo Sanlucar Tauromagia Gerardo Nuñez Jucal Vicente Amigo Vivencias Imaginadas Tomatito Paseo de los castaños Enrique del Melchor Cuchichi Antonio Rey Colores del fuego
To get ya started
Goldwinghai -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 19:12:48)
Paco Cepero Agua Marina. His Agua Marina CD may have more.
joselito_fletan -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 15 2019 21:13:15)
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I mean, maybe about the arrengements, more complex and orchestrated arrengements Ill like to listen. Some variation.
How about Flamenco Piano with a sprincal of some calo lyrics?? Dorantes Orobroy is a good one to get you hooked [;)]
JasonM -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 2:57:11)
I know exactly what you are looking for:
rombsix -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 4:18:43)
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I know exactly what you are looking for:
[:D][8D]
RobF -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 5:24:38)
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I know exactly what you are looking for:
Oh man...I was going to post that, but I chickened out! [:D]
As soon as I heard it was in Barcelona that Paco’s guitar went missing, it wasn’t too hard to figure out who the culprit probably was...
RobF -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 6:55:58)
Joking aside...there was a thread on Flamenco Jazz not that long ago that posted videos of some of the Madrid players who are involved in that. It’s not all instrumental music, however, it brings cante into the mix, too.
Sr. Martins -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 7:29:51)
Myrddin - Rosa de Papel
Jose Manuel Leon - Sirimusa
Diego del Morao - Orate
Piwin -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 10:43:00)
You'd have to distinguish between "modern" flamenco and fusion. Most of the recommendations above are "modern" but don't fit the description of incorporating elements from other genres necessarily. My understanding of it is that "modern" toque has very little to do with imports from other genres and everything to do with how they approach syncopation. Ricardo has explained this very well in too many threads to count (if you use the search bar and look up stuff like "modern or traditional" or something like that you're bound to find it). On the fusion front there's a pretty wide range, qawwali flamenco (Chicuelo), Indian/flamenco (Pepe Habichuela, Norah Jones's sister, I'm guessing she has a name? Sister Jones?), flamenco jazz (Ojesto, Pardo) "trans-Mediterranean" flamenco (Radio Tarifa), flamenco pop (Ketama, Pata Negra), Cuban/flamenco (Valdez), "WTF-I-mean-seriously-why-on-earth-would-anyone-do-that-enco" (electrolé), "I-sound-like-a-dying-cat-enco" (Nino de Elche), "Believed-to-be-flamenco-by-every-girlfriend-you've-ever-had-but-not-actually-flamenco-enco" (Rodrigo y Gabriela), etc. But yeah I'd distinguish between the two. Modern toque doesn't seem to be all that informed by the fusion stuff and the fusion stuff isn't necessarily "modern".
manlargentina -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 21:39:41)
Yes Piwin, I know was too short trying to explain what im looking for, and you are right, I forgot that "modern" in flamenco means what you described, and yes, Im looking for something more... fusion.
Im not so interested in jazz-flamenco because at least some of the jazz flamenco ive heard doesnt like me, some people just put a soft jazz piano mixed with some flamenco and thats "new", and boring. Lately ive been listening lot of jazz, which its good to learn something new, i like to learn the new scales and i can take some things but its not really my thing. But if theres a good flamenco-jazz i would like to hear it.
Cuban-flamenco sounds interesting, cuban music have such great arrengements and mix it with flamenco sounds good, never thought about it.
Im looking for something that can go beyond of the flamenco about the arrengements, and sounds.
Anyway thanks all for reply.
Also interested in listen some flamenco-arabian, years ago i passed through a place in Catamarca (Argentina) with a sign outside saying "Today Flamenco", and enter, the man who played incorpores very arabian roots to his flamenco, I think is more arabian than flamenco, if any wants to listen it he is Elias Esper, great to listen.
Really want to listen some flamenco with oud in it.
with oud, or lute not sure
This music of this composer its not really what im looking for, just a side not to show you, if this kind of music have more instruments, more elaborated, then would be what im looking for, anyway I bought his CD when went to see him play and its very good, just guitar and percussion, in the clips maybe dont appreaciate the arabian roots on his flamenco mixture.
nikgogl -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 22:24:30)
Also Jesus Guerrero, and anything by Chicuelo
Piwin -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 16 2019 23:05:43)
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Really want to listen some flamenco with oud in it.
Look up El Amir. There's often an oud not far around in his stuff.
Though the connection with flamenco isn't always there (pretty eclectic guy). Probably the band he's most famous for:
Otherwise there's been plenty of projects like this where it's a sort of back and forth but it tends to be focused on the singing.
Fitz63 -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 17 2019 8:41:03)
French guitarist Juan Carmona springs to mind.
edguerin -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 17 2019 9:07:05)
Castro Marin Live One Summer Night: PdL Flamenco Jazz: Iturralde Quintet + PdL Friday Night in San Francisco: DiMeola, McLauchglin, Pdl Flamenco Fusion: Jan Hengmith Fandangos in Space: Carmen Camino del alba: Bernardo Sandoval
come to mind
RobF -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 17 2019 11:54:36)
Vicente Amigo’s “Tierra” also springs to mind. That album brings traditional Irish into the mix.
Cervantes -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 19 2019 15:53:54)
John Amir Haddad
Antonio Rey
Samuelito
koenie17 -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 19 2019 16:52:49)
Check out "Son de la Frontera"
Nito -> RE: Interested in flamenco with more modern approach (Jan. 21 2019 13:27:55)
