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MikeChandler -> Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 11 2018 20:27:54)

I am tired of screwing around with all the issues I've had with my sub-standard cheesy cheap flamenco guitar.

For a hard limit of $2500 what's the best blanca with mechanical keys that I can get?

I prefer solid cypress back and sides, europan spruce top, ebony fretboard, and please come with decent tuners on it. I like plank style necks, not modern. Fast action required.

I don't need fancy anything it just needs to be very playable and musical. I've played on a few flamencos over the years that literally sang - that's probably too much to ask for but along that path would be great.

Any advice on which guitars to start hunting down would be greatly appreciated!



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 11 2018 23:21:41)

For that price I think you could do very well with a used guitar from one of the Foro's trusted luthiers... Ethan Deutsch, Anders Eliasson, Jorge de Zofia, etc. I would say just watch the classifieds for a while.



Leñador -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 1:15:16)

To add, Andy Culpepper and Stephen Faulk. You can't get a custom built guitar from these guys for that but you can maybe pick up a used one. I own two Stephen Faulks and love them and played one of Ethans and loved it. Get a used luthier built guitar and you'll be stylin.



JasonM -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 3:56:22)

There really isn’t much in terms of new guitars in the 1k-3k price range that’s worth the money. you could get a Sanchis 2f for 1500-2000 grand I believe if you don’t want to wait for something used. Definitely not on the handmade/concert level sound wise but it should play like a decent guitar.



Ricardo -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 11:56:57)

I’ve concertized and recorded with my Hermano Sanchis Lopez 1F that is in that price range, at least used.



Echi -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 13:59:01)

+1 for old Sanchis Carpio or Hermanos Sanchis Lopez.
You can happen to pick a very good guitar and not only for the money.
In my case I arrived to the conclusion to sell a good luthier guitar of mine as My Sanchis Carpio 2f was just better.
Good advice also to look for used guitars of the Foro’s luthiers.



MikeChandler -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 15:05:10)

There's an Ethan Deutsche at a local shop. I haven't gone to play it because it has old style tuning pegs, rather than machines. Having never used them I am really worried about that - I am sensitive to tuning issues.



jalalkun -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 15:46:24)

what you're looking at might be a guitar with mechanical pegs by pegheds. ethan has been using these almost exclusively. they look like traditional pegs but are geared inside. I'd say go give it a try, ethan makes monster guitars.



Mark2 -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 16:24:55)

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=311165&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

2k



RobF -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 17:19:12)

Even if the Deutsch guitar has traditional pegs, you could possibly get Ethan to retrofit Peghed mechanicals. Pegheds tune easily and you’d be getting what is likely a really nice guitar.



NewPlayer -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 12 2018 18:01:37)

My experiences have been very off. I have gone through a few luthier-made guitars, a few factories, even a HSL 1F extra and then finally settled on a $300 lucida picado 797 from valencia. Its easy to play and has plenty of growl and attack that I really was looked for in a guitar.

Also, my level of playing is not nearly in a place for me to really appreciate a concert-level guitar, but bottom-line, you won't know what works for you, until you actually hold the guitar in your hands and play it. So, whatever decision you end up making, hopefully there is a refund policy in place.



Argaith -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 13 2018 10:37:34)

Hi Mark,

Is your guitar still available?

Thanks,
Ali



Mark2 -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 13 2018 17:13:11)

yep



Arash -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 13 2018 17:35:25)

I have a Hnos. Sanchis 1F extra cypress which is best bang for the buck imo.
I don't know how the prices are today, haven't checked in ages.
But a used good one is probably in your range.

I don't know what you exactly mean with "sang".... if you want one of those guitars with crazy sustain and growl, then this might not be one for you.



JasonM -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 13 2018 18:59:25)

quote:

My experiences have been very off. I have gone through a few luthier-made guitars, a few factories, even a HSL 1F extra and then finally settled on a $300 lucida picado 797 from valencia. Its easy to play and has plenty of growl and attack that I really was looked for in a guitar.


Say what? We’re the guitars not set up right?

I will say, it took me many years of playing to detect subtle differences in guitars. Now it seems obvious but at the time it wasn’t.



NewPlayer -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 13 2018 20:26:29)

JasonM,

The guitars were set up very nicely. Its my own personal ignorance that limits my ability to really appreciate luthier-made guitars.
For what i do, the Lucida guitar does the job.
I hope that in time, I can be at a proficient level to actually enjoy the beauties that luthier-made instruments have to offer.



Ruphus -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 14 2018 11:32:46)

Why ebony?



Njål Bendixen -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 14 2018 11:43:52)

quote:

I like plank style necks, not modern.



What is a plank style neck?
What is a modern neck?



Miguel de Maria -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 16 2018 16:31:35)

My Shelton-Farretta was somewhere around that price, and I love it.

http://sheltonfarrettaguitars.com/



JasonM -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 16 2018 22:55:34)

A plank style neck is a neck that is left uncarved so it’s still square and not rounded or flush with the fretboard



MikeChandler -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 17 2018 21:07:00)

I got extremely detoured from my mission of buying a good flamenco.

One of the shops I went into had a guitar built by, Dennis (DW) Stevens (aka Denny) a luthier in Colorado who is deceased. He had done work for me in the past, including the complicated repair of a 1972 contreras. He was a great luthier - and he built everything himself.

This guitar's a cutaway style classical, built with 60 year old Brazilian rosewood and a European cedar top. It sounds spectacular, although with a 660mm scale and setup like a Ramirez it's making my fingers do some push ups.

I went over budget, but luckily the wife was with me. When she saw that it was one of Denny's guitars she said, "We need to bring it home!"

So... I will have to live with my beat up Juan Huipe for a bit longer... somehow I will get by.

:)



constructordeguitarras -> RE: Best flamenco for $2500 (hard llimit) or less? (Dec. 17 2018 21:40:08)

Thanks for the plugs, Andy and others.

There are no Ethan Deutsch guitars that I have put wooden pegs on. I often use Pegheds mechanical pegs, and sometimes "regular" tuning machines such as Rubners.

I hope people will consider saving up and buying new guitars from us luthiers. Just think, comparable instruments in the violin world cost ten times as much.



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