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bob -> Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 3 2006 17:26:41)

Does anyone have any opinions or experience with Rafael Romero Barroso's instruments?




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 3 2006 19:36:25)

Bob,

OK just got a 120 negra just a couple of hours ago. Hang tight and I'll get back to you.

So far, really nice!




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 3 2006 19:51:48)

Pat,

What are you doing still buying guitars? You own a Green and DeVoe for Pete's sake! [:)]




bob -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 3 2006 20:13:00)

Cool. Let me know. I have a flamenco job of his, which i am very impressed with. I am thinking about getting a classical from him. Where did you get yours from?




Thomas Whiteley -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 2:02:22)

Pat;


You are going to force me to come up and visit you. I have been invited to attend an Air Force reunion at Condon, Oregon. Katy and I might just be up your way in August.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 3:02:15)

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What are you doing still buying guitars? You own a Green and DeVoe for Pete's sake!


Tom,

The devil made me do it! Actually, I have a hard time passing up a bargain. I know you are carrying his guitars and started doing some research on him. As an x pro flamenco player he really knows what they are supposed to sound like.

A while back I ran across an EBay auction for a brand new 120 negra. This is the one you sell for $2,000 (and your competition sells for more, BTW). I don't think many people knew much about him and I picked it for peanuts. With shipping and duty I will be just a hair over a grand.

The problem is, with the Green and DeVoe you don't want to take them anywhere and you worry about them. What I needed was a nice dinger to pack around. I figured at a grand I would come out fine. If I didn't like it, I can sell it for what I have in it. So far it looks like a great find.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 3:04:14)

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You are going to force me to come up and visit you. I have been invited to attend an Air Force reunion at Condon, Oregon. Katy and I might just be up your way in August.


Cool. The welcome mat is always out, although it might have floated away with record rainfall that we have had.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 3:20:00)

quote:

Does anyone have any opinions or experience with Rafael Romero Barroso's instruments?


Bob,

I probably can't add much to what you already know. If you have one of his flamencos you probably have as much info as I do. The only thing that would be of concern is his flamenco background. He may not be the best guy to build a classical, but what do I know.

About the one I just got. The 120 negra is his lower cost model, which is supposedly build primarily by his assistants, with him doing the important stuff. The workmanship is in line for this price guitar. It has a few minor finish issues, but all and all very nice. The action was set pretty good, but I took it down a hair already. The tuners were cheap throwaways. I put a set of Gotah's on that I had setting around.

As soon as I pulled it out of the case and tuned it up, I could tell it had real possibilities. As far as I am concerned most negra’s sound like classicals with tap plates on them. This one is flamenco all the way. It is new so I think it will just get better.

All I can say is, if his low-end guitar is this good; his top of the line must be outstanding.




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 12:55:59)

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As an x pro flamenco player he really knows what they are supposed to sound like.


You got that right. If you like this one you'd really like his 1a models. These he builds himself. He told me he was no longer going to be making the 120. I believe the only 120's available are what's left in various shops. The 150 will now be the base model. Also a very nice guitar.




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 12:57:58)

Hey Pat,

Where exactly is Beaverton? My wife has been offered a job there. Of course her company will not pay for the move but the thought of living in OR. intriques me. I love the rocky coasts.




richard -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 15:00:26)

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Where exactly is Beaverton? My wife has been offered a job there. Of course her company will not pay for the move but the thought of living in OR. intriques me. I love the rocky coasts


Hi Tom. Beaverton is on the west side of town, 15 mins from downtown Portland,
and not much more than an hour from the ocean.
Come on out !

Rich




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 15:41:40)

Hi Rich,

I am very tempted to just push for the move. I love the great outdoors and the fresh ocean air. I think it would be a nice change from Texas. I won't miss the brutal Texas summer heat one bit!




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 15:54:07)

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I believe the only 120's available are what's left in various shops.


That was my understanding as well. The one I got was 2005 from a European dealer that was closing it out. I think the 120 and 150 are so close it didn't make sense for him to make both.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 15:59:34)

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Where exactly is Beaverton? My wife has been offered a job there. Of course her company will not pay for the move but the thought of living in OR. intriques me. I love the rocky coasts.


As Richard said, Beaverton is the one of the main bedroom communities of Portland. My office is just a few minutes away. Trust me, once you visit the area, you won't go back. You have to get used to rain in the winters, but the the summers are heaven on earth.

Give me a call or email me and I can give you some ideas on housing.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 16:03:07)

Rich,

How's that Sigurdson doing?




richard -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 17:57:43)

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Hi Rich,

I am very tempted to just push for the move. I love the great outdoors and the fresh ocean air. I think it would be a nice change from Texas. I won't miss the brutal Texas summer heat one bit!



Tom, you have a little bit of of everything here, really nice summers,
not too hot or muggy, not too cold in the winter, or much snow, but if
you like snow it's only an hour away to the mountains where there's
a ton of it just now, so you have somthing of everything here,an hour
to the mountains, an hr to the ocean, the great outdoors right on your
doorstep, not to mention a flamenco dance school in town, what
more could you want, come and check it out.

Rich.




richard -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 18:02:15)

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what
more could you want, come and check it out.


Forgot to mention , If you like listening to great flamenco guitar music,
well .... Patrick lives here!!!

Rich




richard -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 19:35:16)

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How's that Sigurdson doing?


Hi Patrick, A day never goes by without me picking it up,
all I need now (as well as the ability to play it) is a Green blanca
and a deal as good as I got the Sigurdson for, know any one selling
one cheap?[;)]

Rich




PacoPaella -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 19:42:57)

Bob,

you talking about Rafael Romero from San Fernando? I visited him last year and bought a nice blanca and spent a very nice evening there where he played my new guitar in a concurso de cante Flamenco...different story.

Anyhow the guitar is nice, i think its a 1b and it cost 1.800 euros. He has a 1a model and a few pro ones , rather confusing. apart from that he produces a model exclusively for a german shop (model andalucia) which is the 1a model quality wise, but without the looks, a bit more simple. Extremely cheaper tho. They sell his whole product line. Check this: http://www.ole-flamenco.com/

However...i am not aware that he builds classical guitars at all.




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 22:20:09)

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However...i am not aware that he builds classical guitars at all.
000

It says he does on his web site.

http://www.guitarrasromero.com/english/catalog.html




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 22:21:21)

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know any one selling one cheap?


nope




Thomas Whiteley -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 4 2006 23:28:30)

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Where exactly is Beaverton? My wife has been offered a job there.


As Pat indicated, Beaverton is a few minutes from Portland. It is a great area and a great state.




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 6 2006 23:13:25)

quote:

Tom, you have a little bit of of everything here, really nice summers,
not too hot or muggy, not too cold in the winter, or much snow, but if
you like snow it's only an hour away to the mountains where there's
a ton of it just now, so you have somthing of everything here,an hour
to the mountains, an hr to the ocean, the great outdoors right on your
doorstep, not to mention a flamenco dance school in town, what
more could you want, come and check it out.


Rich,

I'm sold. Now if only you could talk to my wife [:)]




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 7 2006 6:25:17)

Man you don't have your bags packed yet? Call me and I'll talk to her. Trust me, once you are hear, you will never go back.




Guest -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 7 2006 7:15:35)

Tom, maybe they wont let you stay. They throwed Bhagwan out some 20 years ago. [:D] Just kidding.

Listen guys, because someone knows a lot about flamenco does not mean he/she is not capable of building nice classicals. The fact that the guy knows how to play and do it well, gives him an advantage over about all other guitarmakers.....




Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 7 2006 19:13:08)

Tom,

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TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 7 2006 20:31:46)

Pat,

Thanks for all that info. Can you throw in some fishing lesson? [8D]




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Patrick -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 7 2006 20:48:28)

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Thanks for all that info. Can you throw in some fishing lesson


You got it man! Be here by May. The smallmouth bass will be on fire. Two guys will usually average about a hundred fish a day, plus you get to go over 70 miles per hour on water! Guitars and fast boats; it doesn’t get any better!




TANúñez -> RE: Rafael Romero Barroso (Feb. 8 2006 18:08:27)

A hundred fish a day!!!! Well I'll let you know if anything developes. Thanks for all the info.




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