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Ruphus -> Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 7:46:33)

It was close to midnight and I had slumbered off before the TV due to utterly boring program (007, James Bond; unreal BS that couldn´t even thrill me as a kid).

Suddenly a sound as if a giant animal was roaring, all kinds of noises blending and the windows rattling like crazy. The stomach indicated altitude toss and I was almost thrown out of the armchair. About to run downstairs and release the dogs from inside, I felt that it was over. It must have lasted between 10 and 20 seconds I guess.

Saw others coming out from their houses, but to me it seemed to have passed by.

The animals had been quiet throughout. Only afterwards the whole quarter started barking.

The dog who was in the yard (always protective of me) remained standing towards the fencing wall and directed exactly to the epi center. (Which is right here.) He wouldn´t let go motionless securing for a good 15 minutes.

Friends called me up, offering to pick me up and drive away, but I wouldn´t want to leave the pets alone. Local media announced a second quake, but it did no occur last night. -For lack of better idea I put the most valuable guitars into closets.

Other than a couple items falling from the bathroom shelf nothing seems to have been broken.

The consequences of our culture of insanity are increasingly surfacing.
Amassed hurricanes, floods, landslides, droughts and extinction of the past 20 years are only forerunners of the approaching wave.

Those of you sticking to the fata morgana of reasonable neoliberalism, integer authority, democracy in place and admins´ concern about people: You will be regretting the blue-eyed opportunism wholeheartedly. When it´s too late for to turn the steering wheel of pathological selfishness around. And that won´t be in 50 years. Not even remotely that far.

Unless an international awakening was to kick establishment aside and determining all focus on a U-turn in benefit of environment, humanity and fellow species, the blue planet collapse will be determined max 3 years up from now.

Forbes just released its latest list. Not a billboard of admirable gains but a protocol of the doom engine.



Argaith -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 12:47:39)

Ruphus, are you in Iran?

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Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 13:26:45)

No. I´m in hell, somewhere below earth crust.



Argaith -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 13:51:19)

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No. I´m in hell

This is how some folks refer to Iran nowadays anyway:)

Your description of the earthquake sound was very similar to what my mother said when I spoke to her this morning.

Take care,
A



Arash -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 14:00:40)

yeah but the earthquakes have nothing to do with everything you said in the last paragraphs of you post. check the history of earthquakes in that region, here is a list of recorded incidents going back hundreds of years

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Erdbeben


there will always be earthquakes in our country, no matter what politicians do. its just a geographical fact [8|]



Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 14:22:40)

Well, maybe not really.

First of all there is my personal observation, according to which earthquakes tend to follow subterranean nuclear explosions. A coincidence that should only be making sense, but I don´t recall it being discussed.

That potential causality put aside, look here:


http://www.vulkane.net/blogmobil/forscher-warnen-zunahme-starker-erdbeben-steht-bevor/

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Forscher gehen heute immer mehr davon aus, dass auch der Mondzyklus und das Klima einen Einfluss auf seismische- und vulkanische Aktivität haben. Umstände, die noch vor wenigen Jahren von den meisten Forschern belächelt wurden. Inzwischen scheint es als bewiesen, dass das System Erde äußerst dynamisch ist und viel sensibler auf Veränderungen reagiert, als man es noch vor wenigen Jahrzehnten glauben wollte.



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Researchers today are increasingly assuming that the lunar cycle and climate also have an impact on seismic and volcanic activity. Circumstances ridiculed by most researchers just a few years ago. In the meantime, it seems proven that the Earth system is extremely dynamic and more sensitive to change than one would have believed just a few decades ago.


Sound different to me from "nothing to do with".

It is being successively understood that the planet is a complex related system. You can´t expect madness to generate multiple global factors without impact. Including tectonic ones.



Arash -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 15:00:42)

I tend to stay with facts and seperate my other "beliefs" from scientific facts.

Unless you are so powerful to move the seam between the tectonial plates to somewhere else far far away[:D], we will always have earthquakes there.

The only useful thing one can do (and what humans can REALLY influence and not only in their fantasy. when it comes to earthquakes), is to build structures which are more earthquake-proof than what we usually have there and rebuild over and over again. These type of innovations and ideas is what lacking there:






Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 15:45:59)

Thanks for explaining about tectonics. I must have sounded as if not knowing about that. [8|]

If that kind of 'scientific being' reassures you, so be it.
If however interested into double checking your strategy, note your escape into polarization. You are not responding to a claim of all seismic activity to be of human cause. It is not about either all or nothing.

It is about increased tectonic and volcanic activity that is increasingly accepted as one of enhanced symptoms through environmental havoc.

And in regard of phlegm and dismissed science on the other hand there have been countless examples in response to Galilei over Pasteur to Darwin etc.pp. In most cases the rather obvious was neglected by minds who thought of themselves to be sticking to science.

Besides, the Neandertaler was at least as much developed as the homo sapiens sapiens. In fact he wouldn´t even use clubs. Who would had thought.



Dudnote -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 21 2017 17:46:08)

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ORIGINAL: Ruphus
No. I´m in hell, somewhere below earth crust.

I didn't know Iran had underground salmon farms [:D]

Earthquakes - yes horrible!

My first experience of a factor 5.5 earthquake was when I lived in Taiwan. I shared a 7th floor appartments with two female students. When the building started rocking and groaning I dropped my shaving kit, ran out the bathroom and grabbed the first girl I saw.

I was butt naked.

We ended up getting married one year later [:D]

Enjoy the quakes Ruphus [;)]



Leñador -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 22 2017 0:09:03)

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When the building started rocking and groaning I dropped my shaving kit, ran out the bathroom and grabbed the first girl I saw.

I was butt naked.

Wow, I'll have to try that. Do I have to wait for an earthquake for it to work?? [:D]



Dudnote -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 22 2017 5:33:26)

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ORIGINAL: Leñador

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When the building started rocking and groaning I dropped my shaving kit, ran out the bathroom and grabbed the first girl I saw.

I was butt naked.

Wow, I'll have to try that. Do I have to wait for an earthquake for it to work?? [:D]


So long as the earth moves for her all should be OK [:D]



Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 22 2017 6:38:47)

Think I have had enough critical situations for to hypothetically cause heart attacks to an audience if events were captured on tape. A past that may well outrange a cat with its 9 lives. (Numerous cases that me got away with alive possibly balancing all the bad luck that I´m wading through on the other hand, -which almost rivals the one of Gauls against Caesar [the AH].)

But I don´t recall whether having had before weak knees like Wednesday night. Maybe it was for the abruptness with beeing taken by surprise sleeping, but ... The sensation of huge power that is shaking your place like a house of cards ... Framed by that giant´s growling which sounded groaning in the same time, like something raging and suffering at once.
Senses just wouldn´t know how to file, only that reason took over very soon, alarming that walls and ceiling might be coming down that minute.

I am amazed that my house, built in local 'don´t give a f***' standard, remained intact. To me just incredible, actually.
Thanks go to the quake that had set on just a quickie at moderate intensity. ~20 seconds more and I´m rather certain that the structures here would had bowed to their dumb, unscrupulous builders. (Nothing these wouldn´t do to spare in 50 cents, even if constant cutting edges and merciless usury made them multi millionaire long since. -They are not even prepared to decently spend on cement. For piercing local "concrete" you hardly need to use a drill even.)

No doubt to me that thousands of people and me have had great luck. It wouldn´t have been the first time that a votive of relentless condensing buried tens of thousands beneath debris.


The capitol for instance is long since suspect to be burying up to millions in case of an earthquake, and plans were discussed to abandon and raise a new city somewhere else. However, real estate bargains in the given capitol (you would never believe the RE sums for such a polluted, littered, crooked and smoggy, ugly moloch! Let alone crappy construction and infra structure level) seem to be going just too well for skimming admins to let go.

That ought to be why in spite of a huge host of official staff (that all regimes like to entertain as stabilizer) no administrative body is being installed in the country. In conjunction with steady chicanery (come here personally, go there; not there, come here) it presses the population to settle in the capitol, keeping the RE skim running. And enormous squeezing off is all that counts where the upper fourhundred can only laugh about common margins. Making like ~100 of one buck within a month or three being what they have accustomed to. While not being ashamed for one minute to see their people crawling under the extreme squeezer and cannibalizing on each other.



Ricardo -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 22 2017 17:17:59)

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And in regard of phlegm and dismissed science on the other hand there have been countless examples in response to Galilei over Pasteur to Darwin etc.pp. In most cases the rather obvious was neglected by minds who thought of themselves to be sticking to science.


Well, clearly Allah has sent a sign, it’s time to align with Donald Trump and Israel before it is too late!!!



Piwin -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 22 2017 17:56:48)

If we're talking about Iran and we're saying it was induced by nuclear testing, somebody may want to tell the AIEA about that because I don't think they're aware [8D]

Sometimes seismic activity can be induced by human activity. The most notable case is probably Oklahoma where in a short time span they went from a few earthquakes a year to several hundred because of the pressure caused by injecting wastewater from oil extraction operations deeper underground. But sometimes you just live next to a fault line. Sometimes you just built your house on a supervolcano. And sometimes an astroid comes hurling down over your head when you were having breakfast. And no magistrate or business moghul is to blame.



Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 23 2017 6:48:17)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Well, clearly Allah has sent a sign, it’s time to align with Donald Trump and Israel before it is too late!!!



Can I have some too? [:D]



Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 23 2017 6:51:24)

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ORIGINAL: Piwin


Sometimes seismic activity can be induced by human activity. The most notable case is probably Oklahoma where in a short time span they went from a few earthquakes a year to several hundred because of the pressure caused by injecting wastewater from oil extraction operations deeper underground. But sometimes you just live next to a fault line. Sometimes you just built your house on a supervolcano. And sometimes an astroid comes hurling down over your head when you were having breakfast. And no magistrate or business moghul is to blame.


"Sometimes, sometimes ..." We are talking about effects on earth crust and increasing seismic conditions, as a fact you definitely don´t want to have. Human made factors that there are too many. Aside of already mentioned ones, the mining of filled cavities, the plummet of ground as is with very most of costal metropolis (in those like Tokyo way over 10 m by now) through excessive pumping off ground waters, crumbling and change of consistency through fracking, erosion and land slide through deforesting, etc.

If you think those to be irrelevant anyway before the fact that we could be hit by asteroids, then it might be taking some more years into the future still, for change of evaluation.



Piwin -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 23 2017 7:54:47)

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If you think those to be irrelevant anyway before the fact that we could be hit by asteroids, then it might be taking some more years into the future still, for change of evaluation.


It still astounds me how you can diss someone who, for all intents and purposes, was, for the most part, agreeing with you.

Let me ask you this then plain and simple: is there any natural disaster that could occur, absolutely anything, that you wouldn't blame on human beings, and more specifically on this corrupt elite?

If there is a noted increase in seismic activity, I'm all for looking into the causes, including man-made causes, and in some cases, like the previously mentioned Oklahoma swarm, it does seem to be induced by human activity. But here we're talking about a situation where the amount of earthquakes increased dramatically over only a few decades. Globally I haven't heard any geologist argue that earthquakes are becoming more frequent or more severe. The most severe earthquake in European memory had to be the Great Lisbon earthquake of 1755, estimated today to have had a magnitude of 9 on the Richter scale, and that was long before the age of oil extraction and nuclear testing. Find me the stats showing that seismic activity is getting more frequent and more severe and I'll be all ears.



Ruphus -> RE: Earthquake of 5,2 under my butt, yet worse to come (Dec. 23 2017 9:19:49)

Here is what supports your take on it:
http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/news/EQ_increase.html
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Why it might seem there are more.
There are a number of reasons why it might seem as if we are experiencing more earthquakes.
1. Earthquakes in populated places are far more noticed than the many that occur in remote regions, so when, by chance, a run of earthquakes hit population centres, it appears that the number of events has increased. Also, there are more people at risk. Population increases mean there are more people than ever in earthquake prone regions. So although the number of earthquakes remains the same the impact increases.
2. Earthquake clustering. Although long term averages are fairly constant, in any quasi-random process, you get clustering in time. Increases and decreases in seismicity rates are a natural part of this. People notice the clusters; they don't notice the gaps in between. They also forget the previous cluster!
3. Global communication. Vast improvements in global communications mean we have near instant pictures of devastating earthquakes from all around the world. This means more people are aware of earthquakes and their impact.

And here how perspective is from cluster (as you said):
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-la-quakes-20140603-story.html


My layman view and holistic approach is this:

It appears exclusive to limit seismology to heat and energy aspects. If that were all to it, occurrences since cooling down of the crust should have been rather homogenous over earth´s history.

All in all instead there appears to have been a tendency of calming down however, which seems to be on retreat.

It seems only of sense that tectonic plates over time find to relative stability in position after wedging and over tension have successively settled / been diverted.

Manipulating earth crust by changing on masses, structure and stiffness (not to mention inducement of explosive energies) can only enhance tectonic activity.

To me it appears as if seismology was where the minor fraction of climate change denying meteorologists are, who claim current changes were merely natural, in spite of differences with former earth historic occurrences.

Further, my observation includes preceding conditions.
Much of the current mining and altering of crust characteristics is based on energy sourcing.

Where do you think would alternative energy tech would be today, if corruption of (extreme profits and bribing potential) nuclear tech hadn´t been determining state´s policies and undermining research and development of alternatives for the first decades?

Eventually times of mining fossil source could have been over by now, which would not be negligible at all. With all the secondary environmental benefits that it meant.
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If this is not the time to understand that we are having much too substantial and destructive impact on this living planet; when will that time be?

After the planet has been deserted and blown into pieces? At least however, after its break down can´t be prevented anymore?

Is this really the time to place your bet on harmlessness of global human leverage?

What happened if (as with concerned scientists) there was acutely realized that breaks and U-turn must be introduced, while albeit hypothetically the threat of human carelessness wasn´t really lethal to the plant?

Nothing but favoring environment and slowing down species extinction.

What happened on the other hand if common sense and faculties were tweaked to ignorance on behalf of bare pathological enriching of a minute minority?

The blue planet will then be dying at least 200 mio years before astronomically due. Totally needlessly and without slightest responsibility for man and fellow creature. -With the latter being the least justifiably due to be exposed to human insanity.

We are not the ultimate species on earth. Abrahamic superiority is baseless / total subjectivity, and we just one among so many fellow creatures.



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