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Leñador -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 15 2017 19:44:13)

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Insects and horses? Guys, I'm trying to have lunch while reading the forum for god's sake.

Did you miss the posts about elephant and dog!?!?
You guys are hardcore! Hahaha when in Rome I suppose......




Escribano -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 15 2017 21:35:11)

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but your description sounds much like the skate wings we get here in the uk (and im sure elsewhere)


Yes, stingray and skate taste similar (tried stingray in West Africa). Skate in batter is a common in the UK and ray in Ireland.

Tiger prawns are flown on ice (or frozen), into the UK within 24 hours of being caught. Because of our own poor cuisine, we really want for nothing, as long as we can pay for it. [:D]




Johnc -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 15 2017 22:07:11)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

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but your description sounds much like the skate wings we get here in the uk (and im sure elsewhere)


Yes, stingray and skate taste similar (tried stingray in West Africa). Skate in batter is a common in the UK and ray in Ireland.

Tiger prawns are flown on ice (or frozen), into the UK within 24 hours of being caught. Because of our own poor cuisine, we really want for nothing, as long as we can pay for it. [:D]

I love skate wings (and they are my wifes’s favourite), but normally with a salsa verde, i havent tried them in batter!

But not let’s not get into all the prime seafood that we land here in the uk, and is subsequently shipped to europe, i believe most langoustine (dublin bay prawn) eaten in europe are landed in the uk
we few seafood eaters are left with very poor, smelly supermarket leftovers. God knows what will happen after Brexit, but i guess thats for another thread!




Piwin -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 15 2017 22:12:29)

Stewed lamb brain tajine with a side dish of testicles. That's the best I got. Hard to compete with those elephant trunks!




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Ruphus -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 0:02:33)

Talking shark family, in fish markets of the German North Sea coast like the one in Hamburg there are smoked pieces being sold. Usually kind of notched looking bars of golden / yellow color handed in rolls.
They are being called "Schillerlocken" (Schiller curls). Apparently, for to keep the source anonymous as folks might otherwise be scared away. These are belly flaps of the spiny dogfish and taste delicious.

Not that I would be wanting to promote shark as food fish (the bycatch being more than enough, not to mention tremendous fining damages), but I suppose that the very most of sharks may feature such tasty samples, only completing the fining procedure as the useless barbarian procedure that it is.

BTW, I have always wondered what is done with those sharks that end up as prey of sports fishers. Are they being utilized at least (apart from separating jaws to hang them on walls)?

PS:

Just look what I found in today´s news: Chinese ship captured 300 tons of illegal fishing in Ecuador's Galapagos Preserve

In environmental terms I am starting to become allergic against Chinese. They are devastating in all of the last refuges world-wide. [:@][:@][:@][:@]




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 0:28:42)

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Ive never been fortunate enough to taste sting ray, but your description sounds much like the skate wings we get here in the uk (and im sure elsewhere). Are they similar? I guess they must be related.

John


It's the same thing, different skate. There is Ray wing tip in Japan it's called Engawa, means edge. Halibut engawa is great too.

There is also wild boar here, Inoshishi- they try to trap younger ones, the old bastards are tough. In Kyushu there is a unique hybrid called 'Inobuta', very expensive. It's half boar, half black foot pig. Infertile so they breed them on special farms . I've never had it, but it's said to be delicious. I reckon it is the ultimate in non kosher!

There is also gambas al ajillo, but they one up the Spaniards and make it with a kind if clawless lobster called Esaebi....and then you can also make regular gambas al ajillo at home with shrimpy shrimp.

Chicken sashimi, or half cooked chicken breast marinated is the cure for dry breast, it is tender and well frankly raw in the middle. At first this is off putting, but after a while you get used to it. Soaking the sliced bird in ponzu and sliced onion also helps the neophyte get into the game.

I ate scorpions in China, insects, Hmm your're on your own there. As T.S. Eliot wrote in a poem....." the cricket gives no relief..."

At least not for this diner.




Piwin -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 1:23:11)

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....." the cricket gives no relief..."


"I will show you fear with a handful of bedbugs"




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 2:33:25)

Traveling alone in Mexico at age 17 I happened upon a fiesta at Toluca, not far southwest of Mexico City. In an area of food stalls I came across a dish I have seen nowhere else: stink bug tacos.

I'm not sure which species of stink bug was the starring attraction, but it was probably one of these:

http://www.stopbmsb.org/stink-bug-basics/look-alike-insects/

They were served in tacos--alive. People queued up to be served by vendors who dipped their hands into deep trays of squirming live bugs, and slapped them onto tortillas, along with a sizable dash of salsa. The odor was overpowering, even several feet away from the bugs.

It was impressive to see how calmly people dealt with bugs which escaped from tacos, and scampered over the people's faces.

A casual acquaintance urged me to try a stink bug taco, but I demurred. My excuse was that I lacked the dexterity and quickness to keep the taco filing from escaping altogether.

RNJ




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 3:02:19)

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....." the cricket gives no relief..."


"I will show you fear with a handful of bedbugs"



"Against these grasshoppers I have shored my ruin."




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 3:06:04)

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Traveling alone in Mexico at age 17 I happened upon a fiesta at Toluca, not far southwest of Mexico City. In an area of food stalls I came across a dish I have seen nowhere else: stink bug tacos.

I'm not sure which species of stink bug was the starring attraction, but it was probably one of these:

http://www.stopbmsb.org/stink-bug-basics/look-alike-insects/

They were served in tacos--alive. People queued up to be served by vendors who dipped their hands into deep trays of squirming live bugs, and slapped them onto tortillas, along with a sizable dash of salsa. The odor was overpowering, even several feet away from the bugs.

It was impressive to see how calmly people dealt with bugs which escaped from tacos, and scampered over the people's faces.

A casual acquaintance urged me to try a stink bug taco, but I demurred. My excuse was that I lacked the dexterity and quickness to keep the taco filing from escaping altogether.

RNJ


Hmmmm, I wonder if this was an elaborate show to keep gringos from settling in that area?




Ruphus -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 13:19:52)

In past times, wondering how mankind came to find out what is edible and what not, I imagined that people must have simply ate everything. All too often probably desperate from hunger. (Seeing how there have been several bottlenecks with global population, hunger must have been great in many eras and areas.) Hence rather in the gourmand than gourmet corner.

And in regard of much of the inedible, legacy of categorizing must have been a long winded road. Considering for instance how it took potato leaves-consuming Europeans 200 years to discover that it wasn´t about the stomach-ache causing green, but lumps in the ground ...

Finding out which maggots in rotten wood, bugs under rocks, coral fish, years long burried eggs and meat of lilac color, countless sorts of plants and fruits etc. show to be edible, must have taken millions of poisoned individuals.

Weird only how some strange specimens of the edible were taken over into times of relatively sufficient supply with common diet, some even as perceived delicacies.

To me, I mean; who already wonders how olfactory challenging product like say Harz cheese can be overcome until it reaches papilla on the tongue. Let alone varieties of rotten fish and decomposing samples of deep-sea sharks like eaten in Scandinavia, or above mentioned stink bugs. Let alone alive (why on earth?)

To me very different from say grasshoppers, which do not smell, which I long since associate with crisp deep fried product, and which in fact I must have eaten somewhere in childhood, just not remembering when and where.

And I can imagine how insects with their protein of high quality, may not only be part of future resort (if there be any), but tasting well. (Special late restaurants in the west appear to be going strong. And I assume not exclusively for matters of curiosity and exotics.)




Piwin -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 15:55:30)

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Finding out which maggots in rotten wood, bugs under rocks, coral fish, years long burried eggs and meat of lilac color, countless sorts of plants and fruits etc. show to be edible, must have taken millions of poisoned individuals.


An endeavour which is even more complicated than it seems, since today's edible might be tomorrow's death trap, as both our digestive tracts and the organisms we feed on change, évolution oblige.
It is rather fun to think of the first individual that ate, say, an oyster. Though I guess if we really went through our ancestry, the first to eat an oyster was probably some sort of proto-fish. Though I guess in that case what he was eating wasn't exactly an oyster either, at least not the way we know it.




Mark2 -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 16 2017 16:38:15)

I caught a huge skate wing in San Francisco bay many years ago. Had heard that some restaurants would represent the meat in the wings as scallops. So, we cut the wings off and I took one home. I threw it on the barbecue. It was absurd. It was so big it was hanging off the side of the Weber. Then when I cut it, it was full of cartilage. There was no way to get what might look like a scallop out of it. I guess there must be a way to get a nice meal out of one, but I'll never take one again. Hell of a fight though.



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ORIGINAL: Escribano

quote:

but your description sounds much like the skate wings we get here in the uk (and im sure elsewhere)


Yes, stingray and skate taste similar (tried stingray in West Africa). Skate in batter is a common in the UK and ray in Ireland.

Tiger prawns are flown on ice (or frozen), into the UK within 24 hours of being caught. Because of our own poor cuisine, we really want for nothing, as long as we can pay for it. [:D]




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 17 2017 4:00:34)

I wanted to upload pictures of food but the photo uploader is not working.




Escribano -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 17 2017 7:57:22)

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I wanted to upload pictures of food but the photo uploader is not working.


Can you try again?




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 19 2017 3:32:35)

I have some photos of fried engawa on my phone, I'll put them up. But first that taco story was so strange that I have become fascinated with drawing stink bugs.



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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 19 2017 23:20:12)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

I have some photos of fried engawa on my phone, I'll put them up. But first that taco story was so strange that I have become fascinated with drawing stink bugs.



The great cuisines I have sampled all have at least one dish in the category: "Are you brave enough to eat this?"

I admit to having wimped out a time or two.

RNJ




estebanana -> RE: Gourmet corner (Aug. 20 2017 2:05:41)

Fried bugs, baked bugs, roasted outback grubs, bug souffle'...ok maybe...raw bugs? No way.
I would have been there on the side lines with you.




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