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pele280 -> Request and a gift. (Aug. 9 2017 9:17:18)

Hello to everyone. My name is Wojtek, im 21
These are polish songs, although with very very flamenco flavour.
I just love an acoustic style. just guitars, bongos and harmonica maybe.
My request is: Can you introduce me to basic chords inversions or shifts, and more advance soloing, that we can hear in these audios? Tabs, advices, chords, anything You like to share :)
I practice alzapua and arpeggios hard, but blanko - only with right hand. Far i get more confident in my technique i want to actually play flamenco You now.
Ok good journey now
-Dwa ksiezyce (Two moons):
https://youtu.be/byhlxB9Ho28
- Lezki (Tears)
https://youtu.be/4Mu38w6KGXw
- Dziekuje za slonce (Thank you for the Sun)


- And at last, but not least. Tune without flamenco flavour no doubt. But... just listen and flow.
Kiedy przyjdzie dzien ( When that day comes)


I will be happy to translate all the lyrics to english :) Good day to You




Erik van Goch -> RE: Request and a gift. (Aug. 9 2017 16:48:42)

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ORIGINAL: pele280
I practice alzapua and arpeggios hard, but blanko - only with right hand.


Excellent choice :-). Make sure to play with a completely relaxed hand (it took me years to discover my arpeggio lacked fluentness because i kept to much tension on the thump, the solution was not to practice even more arpeggio but to make sure to check, double check and triple check all tension was removed from the thump (which preferably should be played free of tension to begin with) before allowing myself to move a single finger. My alzapua works best as well when my hand and fingers are completely relaxed.




pele280 -> RE: Request and a gift. (Aug. 10 2017 11:01:15)

I will try. Hand pain is normal to me. I practice alzapua until pain is high, then i stop, wait 3 sec. and start again. I think everybody flamenco master had this stage behind him. Alzapua with relaxed hand seems to have no power at all. And i dont have expensive guitar that weeps with every brush of feather-like touch. It's a low ledge alhambra with cheap strings. Lagend has it they remember II WW :)
Its like boxing with 2kg gloves equipped. When you work hard your moves becomes so light.
When i practice arpeggios my thumb lies on the guitar desk. For better balance. I discovered this recently and its cool. But its good to have finger up. Its harder.
I noticed that my finger is completely relaxed, when i practice arpeggios. Even when it
not lies on the guitar desk.
With alzapua i push more tension to my middle and ring finger. They are straight as marines :) My hand does the work.
Cheers




Piwin -> RE: Request and a gift. (Aug. 10 2017 11:42:25)

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Hand pain is normal to me. I practice alzapua until pain is high, then i stop, wait 3 sec. and start again. I think everybody flamenco master had this stage behind him


Don't play until it hurts, this isn't something you can power through. Keep on like that and the pain will stay and you'll risk injury.
When people say "relaxed hands", it doesn't mean playing with less strength. It means that you use only the exact amount of tension needed at only exactly the right moment to produce the sound you're looking for. One way of working through that is to slow it all down and examine the movement. At what point is tension required in alzapua and when should you release that tension. For me, the main issue was never applying too much pressure/tension, it was that I was never releasing that tension. Short bursts of tension followed by release. Or else, whether you play softly or loudly, you'll have the same problem of always keeping the tension up and that'll keep you from progressing and might hurt your hands.




Erik van Goch -> RE: Request and a gift. (Aug. 10 2017 22:26:30)

The most powerful blow i ever gave to my my guitar was with the most relaxed hand i ever had (comparable with atomic energy, small input > huge bang). Never was able to repeat that.

If a hand movement is to slow or the nerve input to long you need to bring fingers back actively, if however you play a finger (or alzapua stroke) with an extremely short nerve input (cutting down the input even before the movement is visually completed) the finger tend to fall back into starting position automatically (a bit like the patellar reflex). When playing smart you can get part of the the alzapua upstrokes "for free" :-).

When playing arpeggio i tend to keep the thump on the string it lands on after plugging the last bass note (rest stroke) if that's the next string to be plugged, or find a convenient moment to travel to the next bass note it has to plug (or a good alternative if both are no option, sometimes indeed the guitar itself).

I never allowed pain to pop up myself. Overdoing can lead to hand damage with longterm and possibly even lifelong limitations.




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