Ricardo -> RE: bulerias? (Jan. 31 2006 16:42:22)
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I read about this 12 count and was listening to flamenco for a few months before I "got it" or so I thought. It was Carmen Amaya's record Queen of the gypsies, where she does these fast triplets with her feet starting on ONE, but accenting on 3,6,8,10, 12 etc. I realized why it was called ONE, or more important where 12 was falling in the music (bulerias of paco and others) I was listening to. Soon after I encountered the "half compas", and just thought that was weird. But I kept learning and started to accompany dance class. I could play most of the stuff and keep time, but slowly started to learn what people call "tapping in 2's", which I figured out from some videos of PDL, Tomatito, etc. But I went to spain in 1999, and literally I learned what bulerias was SUPPOSED to feel like that first night. Palmas groove etc, that is when I finally "got it". 12 count has nothing to do with it, and in fact thinking that way made it very complex for me, more than necessary. Half compas is not weird to me anymore. The compas CD/flamenco metronome is fun to practice with after you "get it", but misleading in terms of the fundamental feel. Get used to listening to this simple palmas track from Todds site: http://michaelk101.com/todd/toddmp3/jerezpalmlong.mp3 The first clap you hear would be 3 or 9 in a 12 count. It can be felt either way, because the fundamental feel is 6, not 12. The down beat is count 6 (or 12), so the first clap is not the down beat in this mp3. There is a contra clap between counts 1 and 2. So the clapping phrase that repeats is 1&2, THREE, 4,5,6, 1&2THREE, 4,5,6...etc. Get used to this sound and try to practice just playing compas with this, rather than the compas CD or metronome. You can hear me strum compas against this palmas track in begining and end of this video: http://michaelk101.com/todd/toddmp3/Ricardopdlfast.wmv If you try to count out the falseta I play, you will notice it does not work in 12. I could not play this with a compas CD or flamenco metronome without adding/subtracting music. Yet it IS bulerias and it IS in compas. I don't know where exactly I would define a single half compas exactly, it all just feels natural to me. My point is, if you can play to this palmas track, then you "get it". Hope this helps. Ricardo PS thanks to toddk for the links.
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