Piwin -> RE: Madrid teacher (Jun. 17 2017 17:12:51)
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That wouldn't surprise me in the least. I've also heard some cantaores complain about the accompaniment here. I wouldn't be surprised if the next generation of guitarists sort of branches off into purely instrumental stuff. Amos Lora pretty much exemplifies that: awesome guitar player but definitely not your go-to guy if you want an acccompanist. My guess is that it started going downwards when Andalusian artists stopped moving to Madrid to make it big. Now they just do their rounds for a week or two and go back home so the locals have less opportunities to learn from the best and there just aren't many really good cantaores in Madrid anymore. Now it's basically a huge guitaristic circle-jerk since there aren't any cantaores with enough influence to boss them around. Then there's the huge influence of El Viejin. Although he was also good with cante, he was a genius with baile and a lot of them try to emulate his style. And last but not least, the so-called culto has had a very negative effect on flamenco and particularly on cante. I'd go into why I think it's been particularly bad for cante but that would be one of those rabbit-hole discussions. In any event, it's "bad" enough that I've decided to move out soon. I feel like I've learned most of what I could learn here. It's been great for technique, rythm and compas and I would recommend to anyone learning flamenco to come here for a while but there is something missing. Now I just have to decide where the hell I'm going to go in Andalucia! I guess the obvious choice would be Jerez but I haven't made my mind up yet. Huelva's been drawing my attention for some reason, probably just because I haven't been there yet (except for a really quick stop over) and also because fandangos de Huelva has to be one of the best inventions of mankind after wine and French cheese.[8D] @johnfraser sorry if this post is off the original topic. Just venting some opinions on why I think the Madrid scene is the way it is. Despite all of it, if you're a beginner at flamenco guitar, it really is a great place to start.
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