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Ricardo -> RE: Best way to learn Rhythm? (May 10 2017 10:51:09)
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ORIGINAL: El Burro Flamencuro
Hey guys,
I'm looking for advices and oppinions.
How did you guys learn Rhythm and if you feel like sharing...what type of learner are you? auditory, visual, kinesthetic. Only share this info if you feel safe doing so.
I'm primarily a kinesthetic learner, but i have a hint of auditory learning as well. ...just found out today.
I'm really just looking for advice from another kinesthetic learner who knows flamenco...to get their knowledge about what worked best for them.
I've listened to music for years, and played guitar for years too. but my practice isn't the most disciplined. and that's how kinesthetic learners do things...by doing but flamenco rhythms are too hard for me to grasp doing it that way!
Thanks guys.
I took drums as a kid so by the time I got into flamenco seriously, I was into reading and rhythmic notation. I would make transcriptions pretty detailed. My very first trip to spain revealed something fundamentally wrong with the way I was trying to pick up rhythms. There were people in class that were not at my personal playing level, but LEARNING and memorizing the material in class orders of magnitude faster than I could. Almost instantly as if it was a review for them...and I mean a LARGE amount of people around me. So I knew there was something different going on. What I discovered about compas in flamenco, is that rhythm is like a language rather than mathematics. A single phrase executed by the teacher has the rhythm clearly expressed like a sentence. Everybody picking it up got the point of it in ONE hearing, were as I was going word by word and wanted to hear it repeated so many times. I had to completely change my thinking about rhythm.
The closest music discipline to what I am describing is the Indian rhythm method called "konokol". If you have access to this it will help you and anyone a lot. The only difference is the specifics of the sounds you might use will be different in the world of flamenco. I had transcribed the music of Tauromagia at one time, and finally noticed that the vocalizations used musically by the singers were actually rhythmic "sentences". Things like "trabili tran tran traaaaaaan, tiri tran-tran trero....", "arsa y toma, arsa y toma, trabili tran..." "toma que-toma que-toma ...." etc .....extremely similar to the Indian konokol method.
The basic idea is that if you can SAY a rhythmic phrase at tempo, then you can eventually execute it some how. Here is an example of a flamenco rhythm most experienced folks will know by the sound.
Taka-taka, taka-taka, TAH...(tah... tah... tah...) ta-ka-ti, ta-ka-ti, ta-ka-ti, TAH...(tah)...TAH...repeat.
Though it's just a rhythm that can apply to several contexts in flamenco, many will have even the exact palo in their head after reading that. Anyway, applying this thing to learning falsetas and compas will really help.
Ricardo
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