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JasonM -> Saddle intonation and string buzz (Jun. 23 2016 20:39:08)

I'm about to cut a new saddle, but the existing saddle doesn't have a clearly defined break angle to reference as in where the strings touch . It's kind of rounded at the treble end, and I'm hoping to eliminate some buzz from The treble strings ocurring at the saddle, and they kind of have a dull sound. I think the Intonation is ok. But a flamenco friend remarked that something was off with the G string especially.

Any guidance on how I shape the top of the saddle? I know this topic has been covered a lot, but the old saddle seems a bit worn out to just make a carbon copy.

I might see if I can take a pic or some video.



jshelton5040 -> RE: Saddle intonation and string buzz (Jun. 24 2016 0:58:47)

Before you make a new saddle why don't you just put a shim under the one you have and see what happens?



Leñador -> RE: Saddle intonation and string buzz (Jun. 24 2016 2:17:06)

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Before you make a new saddle why don't you just put a shim under the one you have and see what happens?

My friend wanted better action and sanded his saddle too far down and it buzzed a ton, I put a flat toothpick under it and there it stays. Worked like a charm.
When I went to install an LR bags anthem in my guitar I popped the saddle off and found it had a rosewood shim under it, the previous owner had German Vasquez do a set up on it, I'm guessing he put it there, what a classy shim! Lolol it was luckily the exact thickness as the piezo.



Cervantes -> RE: Saddle intonation and string buzz (Jun. 24 2016 3:58:07)

I have made exactly one saddle but it turned out pretty well.
I would measure the string height at the 12th fret and see how much each string needs to change, or just check the high and low E string and make the saddle a straight sloping line between them. If the G string intonation is off (I think usually it is sharp) then you need to add compensation to the saddle by putting a ramp in it so the G string contacts the saddle further back. I will be making another one soon as I have a new guitar and the bass strings are too low with excessive buzz.



JasonM -> RE: Saddle intonation and string buzz (Jun. 24 2016 17:25:11)

My action is about 2.7mm/2.3mm as best I can measure. I guess I'm wondering if the top of the saddle is the culprit, or the lack of a nice ramp. Normally the string contacts the apex of the ramp and then tapers back a little towards the tie block correct?

I made a saddle a while back wnere I raised the trebles a hair, but I lowered the bass too much. I can't remember what effect it had, but recently I noticed the break angle was too shallow so I drilled a 12 hole tie block and that made an improvement.



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