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Fisch -> What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 12:42:52)

We are starting a YouTube channel and we're going to be working with a number of artists & teachers in Sevilla.

So I would like to know what you guys want to know more about...

Could be anything, just let us know :)

https://www.youtube.com/c/flamencogypsy



rombsix -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 13:55:07)

I'm good. [:)] Good luck with the project, Fisch. I support you! [:)]



Leñador -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 13:57:02)

Cigarettes, fino, manzanilla and cocaine [:D]
Lol jk Cante is ALWAYS appreciated.



Fisch -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 14:32:29)

Thanks Ramzi

And fair point Lenador :)

We are actually working with a few singers at the moment... but not to give too much away ;)

I think Cante is really the mystery...



Dudnote -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 14:38:58)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fisch
I think Cante is really the mystery...

yeps, a set of translations / discussion of common letras for those too lazy to take regular Spanish classes would be amazing!!



Leñador -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 15:22:58)

Some history lessons about cante are always awesome. Like "This is a popular letra, it was made popular by X, it's thought to have originated in bla bla and variations of it are heard all through bla bla bla"



mark indigo -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 17:00:07)

what dudnote and len said

also I never get this thing about "syllables" in the letras, I read things about how this or that letra has so many lines of so many syllables and I can never understand how the words fit. If I count the syllables they are always too long or too short, and if I allow for andaluz pronunciation and lose all the "d" and "s" from the words it still doesn't add up, so I have no idea how that works.

another thing is I have a really hard time separating melodies of cante from ornaments. I find it easier to hear melodies of cante when they are sung by a dance teacher without a flamenco voice or technique than by an actual cantaor. I don't really understand why, and assume it is something to do with melody vs. ornament



Fisch -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 17:19:46)

I think I know just the guy to ask ;)

Though it's going to take a little more then a few videos to fully explain cante. We can definitely just start at the beginning & work our way through :)



payaso -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 18:42:33)

Explaining cante for guitarists is an excellent idea. It could also be helpful to hear the views of singers and dancers about how they rate guitarists and what qualities they particularly value. The Foro has lots of opinions from guitarists about other players, some about singers and a few about dancers, but very little in the opposite direction. Critics say that the flamenco guitar has taken off in directions alien to the core of the flamenco arts, and some degree of rapprochement could be a good move. It’s not uncommon to see a singer visibly bored while the guitarist takes off on an ego trip of weird and wonderful (and too many) falsetas between verses, damaging the aire.



timoteo -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 21:38:48)

I agree with payaso - what I would really like to hear is cantaor(a)s and bailaor(a)s bitching about their tocaor(a)s.

I personally am not very interested in solo guitar. It bores me. (Which, BTW, is not the same as a judgement that it's boring - it's a subjective opinion about what *I* like.) So I'd like to learn as much about accompanying as I can. It's no substitute for actually doing, but I'm eager to prepare for when I can find a singer or dancer to work with.



johnnefastis -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 11 2015 21:46:40)

Well recorded video cante and baile with and without guitar are always great.
Palos played a little slower than normal are useful too.
Descriptions of typical structures and terminology.
Website looks great btw. Looking forward to having a good look.

Cheers



dartemo1 -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 12 2015 1:26:00)

Hi Fish,

Recordings minus guitar, as well as flamenco "caraoke" would be great with the matching complete set.



Fisch -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 12 2015 8:35:19)

Thanks for all the ideas guys!!

It's gonna take a while to get through it all but everything you've come up with is super important. There just isn't enough information about cante accompaniment out there yet, with baile not far behind.



Fisch -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 12 2015 11:08:51)

I have organised a singer for next week, so hopefully we can cover a few of the things you suggested. Poco a poco no...



DavidRG -> RE: What things would you like to learn more about (Dec. 12 2015 20:39:33)

Maybe you can talk about:
- guitar technique (picado, alzapua, arpegio, ligado, etc)
- typical patterns for famenco styles (tientos, solea, etc.)
- the most popular guitar players and the way the play
- some stories about your daily life there

Good luck!
;)



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