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Dudnote -> What knot is this? (Nov. 3 2015 1:31:55)

This has to be the fanciest way I've seen yet to tie a treble string to a machine head - someone else's fancy work, not mine, although it is my guitar. It doesn't slip which does make it quite tricky to untie - but also suggests it should be as stable as a rock when playing (which it has been). I'm keen to learn how to tie it, but am struggling in poor light here. Time to get the toothpicks out and see what's going on with this thing.

Anyone recognise the knot?



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Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 3 2015 1:34:03)

Another picture



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Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 3 2015 1:36:18)

Last picture - appologies for the image quality.



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Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 3 2015 2:05:24)

Cracked it! Here's a loose version. Pretty simple...

1) Pass string through machinehead hole
2) twist the two bits of string together
3) pass the end between the machinehead's roller and the loop made by the twisted pieces of string
4) pass the end through the newly made loop
5) pull it tight, tune up and play some flamenco

Or...

The rabbit comes out the hole, get's her knickers in a twist, dives under a forked branch, leaps into a time machine and emerges inside the head of Carmen Amaya as she dances garrotin.

Unless someone else already put a name to this, I call it the Garrotin Rabbit method.



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Morante -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 3 2015 16:23:18)

This type of knot is the bane of any repairman who has to take the strings off a guitar and is completely unnecessary.

Turn the machinehead so that the hole in the roller is aligned with the string. With the string attached at the bridge, pass it through the hole in the roller. Keeping some tension on the string. pass it over the roller. Now pass it under itself and back over the roller, on the other side of the string. Maintaining presion, pull the free end of the string tight. Where it doubles around itself will pull tightly into the hole in the roller.

With only half a turn the string is tightly caught. Tied in this way, it will not slip and is super easy to remove.




ToddK -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 2:10:59)

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With only half a turn the string is tightly caught. Tied in this way, it will not slip and is super easy to remove.

Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.[:)]




Sr. Martins -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 2:17:39)

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Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.



That doesn't make any sense.

You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.




Morante -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 11:55:49)

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You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Los gitanos no cambian cuerdas: es un trabajo de las gitanas[;)]




Ruphus -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 12:07:01)

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ORIGINAL: Sr. Martins

You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Not really there yet, but what I did experience one day was a beautiful girl coming into a guitar shop and asking the sales guy to please tune her guitar. I think to faintly remember her saying that she would let someone tune her axe every 6 or more months.

Ruphus

PS:
For picture size before uploading, open your photography in Windows paint (or better even IrfanView if you installed it), check out menu under "image" then "size" and chose no larger than 1000 pixels per side.




Sr. Martins -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 12:09:14)

Hostia! Yo no sé nada de eso.

Voy a tocar Asesino con señor Lenny, es mejor.




rombsix -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 14:07:45)

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Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.


[:D]




MikeC -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 4 2015 18:06:17)

That is a fishing hook knot. I've never seen it used in a guitar, but, why not?



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Wayne Brown -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 13:35:08)

I was thinking fish hook knot also!




BarkellWH -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 13:59:37)

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You should go to España and ask a gitano to change your strings.


Good advice, Sr Martins, since it is common knowledge that only a gitano can tie an authentic flamenco knot.

Bill




Sr. Martins -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 21:12:04)

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it is common knowledge that only a gitano can tie an authentic flamenco knot


Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:






[:D]

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Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 22:25:41)

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ORIGINAL: Sr. Martins
quote:

Just make sure you listen to Cante before you tie it.

That doesn't make any sense.


Makes perfect sense. Without a deep understanding of Cantie Jondo you Can'tTie Nada.




Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 22:53:00)

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ORIGINAL: MikeC
That is a fishing hook knot. I've never seen it used in a guitar, but, why not?

Why knot? Try it once and you'll be hooked for life [:D]




Paul Magnussen -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 22:58:58)

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Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:


Can you spell anorexia? I knew you could!




Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 23:15:58)

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ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen
quote:

Nope, we were wrong. Here's how it goes:

Can you spell anorexia?

Canteat Jondo, Canteat Nada [:D]




Dudnote -> RE: What knot is this? (Nov. 6 2015 23:51:02)

Gracias Rui. I get it now. Cantie Jondo - the art of the deep thong.




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