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tele -> WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 6 2015 21:38:07)

I wonder if it's OK to post this here but in case there are Flamenco guitarists on the foro who have some vintage electrics laying around without use I am interested to purchase original vintage fender&gibson electrics for a good price. Thanks



Escribano -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 7 2015 10:08:08)

Fine by me, though I have moved it to Off Topic in case it generates replies that I have to approve and will more likely be a conversation.

I have several newer guitars that have I have breathed on in terms of setup and configuration. Vintage Fenders and Gibson's are very over-priced in the UK and the best known are not very good guitars, especially those from the 70s.

Les Paul Junior double cutaway and Melody Maker from the 60s seem more reachable and SGs are probably a little undervalued.



Ruphus -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 7 2015 11:10:43)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

Vintage Fenders and Gibson's are very over-priced in the UK and the best known are not very good guitars, especially those from the 70s.


Though clueless in regard of gear and electronics, this is my impression too in respect of construction and prices.
What I came across, specially from Fender, used to be incredibly heavy and chunky old duds. (Responsive like a piece of stone.)

Albeit, saying so on another forum, I received comments from others who confirmed that such duds used to be made, however, that elegant, light and highly resonant specimens used to be built as well.
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Personally, I had my lucky strike in a second-hand store once, with a strat from Yamaha. Slim, light and vibrating from top to bottom. The gear works well, and I was missing nothing tone wise with its pickups. Although, no doubt that geeks would be knowing how to improve it with better electronics.

Ruphus



tri7/5 -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 7 2015 12:51:05)

Curious about why the 70's as well. Most of those are not sought after. 50's and early 60's most definitely. Most strat guys won't touch the CBS era big headstocks so there are plenty to be had at low prices all over the place.



Escribano -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 7 2015 13:32:38)

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Curious about why the 70's as well.


I meant that they are not very good guitars from the 70s. Don't know why, but Strat prices have been too high from that era. I'll try and find some examples around here.



Mark2 -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 7 2015 15:48:09)

I posted a pic before of the 64 strat I had, regretting the day I sold it, but the reason I sold it was because I had a '76 strat that played better and sounded better. I still have it, and it's probably worth about 2k. The '64 probably 25k. One you get over 10k for vintage Gibsons and fenders, you are paying strictly for pedigree, as these instruments don't provide that much value in terms of playability or sound IMO. As investments, they could continue to provide a good return. Who knows what a '58 les paul will sell for in 20 years? Maybe a few million bucks.



SephardRick -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 8 2015 14:40:02)

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I meant that they are not very good guitars from the 70s


I support that statement. Once, I owned a 1975 CBS era Stratocaster. It was horrible! The lousy fretwork cause flat notes in different spots. The maple neck was so soft, you had to be careful not to put too much pressure on it. The body was dipped in plastic to build the body up to a uniform shape. CBS cost cutting low quality was no myth!



tele -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 8 2015 19:38:45)

Yes most vintage guitars are definately overpriced and many aren't even comfortable to play...[8D] However there are some great guitars out there. Maybe someone has one for sale here?[:)]



SephardRick -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 8 2015 21:06:37)

Wish I could help you out. I'm a few years too late there. You see, I also once owned a 1955 Stratocaster. In 1973 like the fool that I am, I sold it to a friend for I could buy the above mentioned 1975 Strat. My friend while playing gigs in New Mexico sold it to country star Michael Martin Murphey for 20 grand in the early '90's. He really needed the money bad and was on a waiting list for a liver transplant. He didn't have health insurance. He died during the wait.
He was a better guitarist than I, too. Because of it all, I rest assured the guitar might helped him out in more ways than one.

Good luck in your search, Tele.



tri7/5 -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 9 2015 15:24:00)

Are you looking for these guitars because of their spec? Or just for collecting purposes?

There are a lot of makers out there doing vintage Fender and vintage Gibson spec better than either company can do themselves currently (Gil Yaron, and Johan Gustavsson immediately come to mind).



tele -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 9 2015 19:47:35)

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ORIGINAL: tri7/5

Are you looking for these guitars because of their spec? Or just for collecting purposes?

There are a lot of makers out there doing vintage Fender and vintage Gibson spec better than either company can do themselves currently (Gil Yaron, and Johan Gustavsson immediately come to mind).


I like the feel and sound of vintage guitars[;)]



tri7/5 -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 9 2015 20:10:16)

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ORIGINAL: tele

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ORIGINAL: tri7/5

Are you looking for these guitars because of their spec? Or just for collecting purposes?

There are a lot of makers out there doing vintage Fender and vintage Gibson spec better than either company can do themselves currently (Gil Yaron, and Johan Gustavsson immediately come to mind).


I like the feel and sound of vintage guitars[;)]


Take a look at those makers. Johan has a stash of old growth mahogany he uses on his bluesmasters that rivals anything you could dig up on a '59 burst. Instead of 100k+ for a guitar you'll only need about 9k to pick one up used.



tele -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 10 2015 20:28:05)

I have very very good newer electrics, but I have this "need" to purchase a vintage guitar[:)]



Morante -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 11 2015 15:05:19)

In 65 CBS bought Fender. Quality went down, down. A vintage Fender is pre CBS 65 or before. The 70s were often bad. Modern Fenders are better. Search the net if you want to know more.

Lots of better guitars out there, cheap. My 300 euros Melody Maker, with Fender Tele and DiMarzio pickups would wipe out many of the magic vintages. [:@]



tele -> RE: WTB: Vintage Gibson & Fender electric guitars (made before 1971) (Oct. 11 2015 18:34:09)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

In 65 CBS bought Fender. Quality went down, down. A vintage Fender is pre CBS 65 or before. The 70s were often bad. Modern Fenders are better. Search the net if you want to know more.

Lots of better guitars out there, cheap. My 300 euros Melody Maker, with Fender Tele and DiMarzio pickups would wipe out many of the magic vintages. [:@]


I know, I've been fender bender for 13 years[:)]



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