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crooksj5 -> Characteristics of these guitars (Apr. 29 2015 1:51:32)

Hello everyone I will be starting the process of ordering a new luthier made Blanca with a just a couple custom measurements somewhat soon. I have narrowed it down to these three makers I think.
Salvador Castillo
Ethan Deutsch
Anders Eliasson

I do not want this to be a which is better thread because that is very subjective and also don't want anyone to be offended. Rather I was hoping for someone to share their first hand knowledge, and experiences with these luthier's guitars and some defining characteristics of their sound and feel. I don't really have the opportunity to play their guitars which is why I am asking. Also I am aware these guitars have been discussed a lot and I have read all those threads , just looking for any additional and more recent information.
Thanks all!



fyr4efect -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Apr. 30 2015 0:29:58)

I don't think you could go wrong with any you listed, tho I have no personal experience with the last two on your list. I recently picked up a used [2010] Castillo blanc, under 2000.00. Great bass with clear tone and even sweet trebles. Couldn't ask for a better blanc for the money. IMHO. You might ck out John Shelton, I believe he makes a no frills blanc in the 2000 price range.
Good Luck.



minorthang -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Apr. 30 2015 1:20:29)

really if u can try try try - i recently got a guitar without playing first its so hard to play in my left hand i find myself playing my old guitar more-- thats sad as wife bought for me - so ill have too learn .

so cant stress enough try if u can and really know what ur after not so much another person or what someone says



koenie17 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Apr. 30 2015 10:25:17)

There´s something about Anders Eliasson guitars that makes them very special.
I think you cant go wrong with one of these, apart from sounding amazing and being extremely comfortable to play with a perfect setup, They look absolutely beatifull.
I can highly recomend them!



crooksj5 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Apr. 30 2015 14:34:14)

Thanks for all the info so far! Through this thread and PMs I'm getting some good advice.
I think that I have got it down to wanting the guitar to be from Spain. That being said I am now attempting to decide between an Anders, or a graciliano Perez. I should have mentioned perez because he has been on my radar and I have contacted him. So anyone with experience on a Graciliano Perez' and any more comments on Anders guitars would be appreciated! Castillo may still be in the mix however if $ is an issue [:)]

Thanks!



stpercival -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 12 2015 17:03:21)

Let me throw a monkey wrench and suggest Andy Culpepper. He made a blanca for me 2 years ago that was exactly what I wanted. The basses are really strong, but do not overpower the trebs. Also, to my ears the mids sounds very old school. Give him a buzz and maybe discuss bracing patterns with him.



Miguel de Maria -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 12 2015 17:19:53)

Never had the chance to play any of those guitars.

My only custom experience has been with John Shelton. It was fun having a guitar made for me and participating in the process. And it's a great instrument! I like that John was a guitarist as well.



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 12 2015 17:22:22)

what is the type of tone you're going for? where are you located? (do you prefer a maker overseas or in europe?) what is your budget?
these are all important - but these luthiers all have a very good reputation and you will surely get a great instrument...



crooksj5 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 13 2015 15:43:18)

Hey everyone thanks for all the great advice thus far. I got put on Graciliano Perez's wait list for a new Blanca in February of next year. I decided I would like my new guitar to be made in Spain and I also like my flamenco guitars slightly bigger than the normal thin Blanca and his look like they fit the bill. That combined with the lots of sound clips I have listened to the guitars seem to have an explosive old school but still unique sound. Thanks and since there is an 8-9 month wait I am definitely still open to other opinions and advice. I really can't go past $4000 for the new guitar with freight and import costs included.



Escribano -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 13 2015 19:58:11)

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Thanks and since there is an 8-9 month wait I am definitely still open to other opinions and advice


Anders. He cares about every guitar he makes. It's personal.



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 14 2015 2:30:59)

in that case I strongly recommend Pena Vargas (1800 euros) and Jerónimo Pérez (2500) - both young makers who are making great guitars at a good price - the current wait is about 2 months I think...



crooksj5 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 14 2015 15:49:26)

Thanks everyone, I have a question...
Is it better to find a maker that your trust a lot and then attempt to work with them on changing some specs and part of there design or would this be considered disrespectful and not smart. Or should I go with someone who is building a guitar closer to what I want with his normal specs.
The reason I ask is like I said I would like a Blanca with a slightly deeper body and slightly bigger upper bout than a normal traditional Blanca would have. I think (and I may be dead wrong) that I am looking for something more in the Rodriguez style body. This is a big reason I went towards graciliano'a guitars.



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 14 2015 20:23:10)

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The reason I ask is like I said I would like a Blanca with a slightly deeper body and slightly bigger upper bout than a normal traditional Blanca would have.


Just out of curiosity, what is your reason for wanting those things?



crooksj5 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 14 2015 21:19:26)

Hey Andy, I think it is mostly a comfort thing and I also like the slightly deeper tone it can produce. I had a nice Blanca that I recently sold because the body just felt too thin as well as the neck feeling too thin, part of it may have to do with my longer limbs and fingers. I could not find a comfortable way to hold the guitar without having to arch my right wrist quite a bit. Some of this could be me being used to classical guitars and just liking a slightly larger guitar. (Not totally sure though my brain is a tough nut to crack haha)



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Jun. 15 2015 1:02:32)

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Hey Andy, I think it is mostly a comfort thing and I also like the slightly deeper tone it can produce.


Fair enough. Just speaking for myself, I have no problem customizing lots of things on a guitar, including body depth (within reason of course) and neck thickness. I also have plantillas with slightly "fuller" upper bouts, but probably wouldn't want to change the proportions too much in that regard.



HeyDukeLives -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Nov. 29 2015 21:02:18)

I couldn't recommend Andy Culpepper enough.
The Blanca he built for me is outrageous, especially for the $.
He gives great attention to what you're looking for.
I stopped offering it to other flamenco players to try because they just get embarrassed that their Conde cost $10,000.



pundi64 -> RE: Characteristics of these guitars (Nov. 7 2016 4:51:17)

Good luck with any decision you make, Andy does make a fine guitar though.



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