El Kiko -> RE: Cultura (Mar. 22 2015 1:09:04)
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the culture thing would have to work both ways though ... so anyone from Spain , and Andalucia ... living abroad .. would have to stay being Spanish and never be being from anywhere else ... despite how long they lived there or however much they changed ..??? is this what we are saying ? This culture question has always interested me .. and my views on it have changed from time to time ... this is just me myself ...because my parents are from different countries .. question ... if my father is from one country and my mother from another ,,,and if i was brought up in again a different country ... where am i from ? meaning , well anyone ...really ... is a person from a country because they have some genetic connection with that country but no real experience or knowledge .. or am i from a country i grew up in ..know as well as any other from there ,, and yet have no genetic similarity .... If i went back to a country i share blood with . am i accepted or viewed as an outsider ?..always ..no matter how long i lived there ? if i write in Spanish here on the forum .. can i say .. but its my language for genetic reasons? .. so im allowed to ,, and claim allegiance to Cordoba , for example .. I noted someone saying about a bit of elitism can be claimed by Andaulicians , gitanos or not because they earned it ....???/ can i claim this ??? personally i dont think so .... Although I have changed my opinion on this over the years m , i belive that culture is a thing you live into...and its not genetically a given ... which makes me English , i suppose ... i went to school there and a lot of my child hood schooling etc was there .. even though in my house there were a lot of influences around ... So going back to live in Spain or Portugal ,,,is it going home ? or leaving home ? while its true that this is an English speaking forum .. i see no problem in using Spanish , due to the nature of this foro...depending on who with , and for what reason ... I see no problem at all with Morante writing , or giving an opinion for the spanish where he lives .. he is after all there .. he sees what happens . , he reads the news , he listens to the radio .. the fact that he is not ( i assume ) genetically connected with the country is of no consequence ... dont ask me about Spain now , i dont live there , ask him .... ask me about Ireland ...even though i was not born here ... I think i could tell you whats going on ..... In short .. I am much more in favour of the whole thing being almost exclusivly cultural and not genetic ..... I came across this phrase written by Munin on Morante .. quote:
But in the case of Morante, he's about as gitano (or even just Spanish) as the average beer-bellied UK tourist that comes to Andalusia every year to scorch themselves to a beautiful pink on the beaches. No amount of living with gitanos, commenting on foro members with thinly veiled condescension or boasting about having accompanied this or that cantaor (all in Spanish on an English-speaking forum of course, which really gives it the maximum cringe factor) is gonna change that. ''no ammount of living with gitanos is gonna change that '' is the very idea that i thought about .. I think it very inaccurate .. people do change and take on many ideas they would not have had if they had not have changed cultures ...definitely it happened to me ..why not to anyone else ? people would , by relocating to a radically different place , undergo a change of opinion , point of view ..adopt new foods , new life style , different clothing , diffeernt ways of thinking from a new location , , spurred on by anyone who is surrounding them .. so where are we from .? ....where we grew up ?.... were we live ? or where our parents are from ? ....assuming there is some difference ....??
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