BarkellWH -> RE: Flamenco and Arabic... How? (Apr. 13 2015 20:51:23)
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If you listen to arabo-andalucian music (the music of Al-Andalus that is still played in marocco and algeria) you'll find similarities. The "phrygian" mode, some rythms. In Africa this music is linked to the court of the ancient kings, it is still a music of the upper class. When you speak of "Africa" and its links to, and influence on, Al Andalus, are you speaking of the Berbers who conquered the Visigoths and established Al Andalus beginning in 711, and who established several dynasties (some very harsh) after the so-called "Golden Age" in subsequent centuries? Or are you speaking of Sub-Saharan, Black Africans who indeed were in Al Andalus as slaves? There was an active trans-Saharan slave trade, and many Black African slaves ended up in Al Andalus. The Berbers, of course, were not Arabs. Although they had been conquered by Arab armies, they were, and are, a separate ethnic group, although they had absorbed Islam and the Arabic language. It is well-known that the Berbers (Moors), Jews, and Gitanos all influenced flamenco as we know it. But you seem to be saying there was influence that extended from beyond North Africa into Sub-Saharan Africa. To expand on Ricardo's question regarding Fandangos and Verdiales, if there was influence from Sub-Saharan Africa, what was it? How did it influence the music of Al Andalus? Was it the Black African slave culture in Al Andalus that had influence? And what are the sources for this information? Bill
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