negra with cedar top- question

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mbira1 -> negra with cedar top- question (Jan. 1 2015 15:08:07)
hello, i am not a luthier at all..i'd love to but.. but maybe it is a correct place to ask: What are the differences betwen classical guitar and flamenca negra with cedar top? (beside strings action and golpeadors..) For example my idol Manolo Franco (and many others: Manolo Sanlucar, Serranito i think..) play a lot guitar like this http://youtu.be/nzwUZ7OoRrI and the sound.. it is not just classical guitar with flamenco technique..i think:) so what is the secret? (pardon my englishhhh) Thanks:)

mbira1 -> RE: negra with cedar top- question (Jan. 1 2015 16:21:34)
oh, i'v just seen EL Guitarrero.. i undrestand more now;)

Ricardo -> RE: negra with cedar top- question (Jan. 1 2015 20:05:17)
Amigo I have the same maker (1971) of guitar as Manolo is using. Mine is spruce top and INdian back and sides, but I admit it has the exact same tone as Manolo's guitar in your video. THe guitar is big like his, but surprisingly light weight compared to most classical guitars I have played. Also the patterns he (Jeronimo Peña Fernandez) uses are strange that I have seen in books, but my guitar actually uses the typicaly 7 fan brace style of most old flamenco guitars. The bridge is black ebony which I can imagine gets that super bright treble sound like he gets here.

Echi -> RE: negra with cedar top- question (Jan. 9 2015 21:35:16)
I have 2 Gerundino guitars, one made with spruce and cypress and the other one cedar and brazilian. All the measures are practically the same as it's the strutting. I agree with Ricardo, at the first impact the tone of the 2 is very similar, particularly for the listener. The cedar topped sounds a little fuller, with more overtones, keeping the separation and tone of my old spruce one. For the player the feeling is different: the feeling is like to play the same guitar but more powerful and full and that's why I immediately fell in love with it.. Anyway, to make the story short, after some months playing it I got more and more disappointed and ended coming back to the spruce and cypress one. I realised that the projection was way poorer (that guitar was never able to get out when played in ensemble) : my opinion is that the body of the note is fuller but the transient or "attack" is likely too soft.. Just my 2 cents.

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