Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Full Version)

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ZaidRockso -> Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Oct. 18 2014 8:16:04)

Hi guys, need some help again if anyone can clarify.

Bulerias starts on 12 , Alegrias on 1, but other than that when just playing tapado, i can't see any difference, so for example, if i don't hear the first 12 beat on bulerias, then i can easily assume it's alegrias, i know bulerias is usually a much faster beat than alegrias, but if i was hearing a slow bulerias, or even practicing bulerias at a slower speed what distinguishes its tapado from alegrias since all the accents are the same , thanks



rombsix -> RE: Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Oct. 18 2014 23:07:57)

One way I imagine would be the more modern way of accenting buleria with 7 & 8 being accented instead of 6 & 8. Or you can think of buleria in sixes which has a different feel than alegria at the same tempo.

By tapado, I think you are referring to solo compas tracks, right? Meaning a loop of percussion & palmas for example?

If you are actually referring to tapado to mean the pattern of playing the compas on the guitar while muting the strings, then I think your questions does not make a huge amount of sense when considering if from the real-life, practical standpoint, because in such a situation, you will know that you are practicing either buleria or alegria, and if you are performing on stage, you will play buleria tapado much faster than alegria tapaodo since it would make no sense for you to play tapado on stage really slowly saying it is a buleria lenta instead of an alegria.

I hope that makes sense...



ZaidRockso -> RE: Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Oct. 18 2014 23:19:36)

Yeah i was referring to the latter, what hapenned was i was practicing bulerias slowly and i was doing the tapado before starting, i found myself doing it almost exactly the same as alegrias which confused me since the accents were same. It Didn't occur to me that bulerias can't be played slow, but yes it makes sense, thanks a bunch Ramzi!



Ricardo -> RE: Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Oct. 19 2014 20:56:11)

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ORIGINAL: ZaidRockso

Yeah i was referring to the latter, what hapenned was i was practicing bulerias slowly and i was doing the tapado before starting, i found myself doing it almost exactly the same as alegrias which confused me since the accents were same. It Didn't occur to me that bulerias can't be played slow, but yes it makes sense, thanks a bunch Ramzi!


Simple answer is that buleria is better expressed in 6's like the palmas. Otherwise it's ok to be confused if the tempo is the same for both, because they are the same rhythm exactly.

The complex answer is that you can do a specific rhythm pattern for alegrias (tapao), for example:

amii amii i+golpe i(accent up stroke), space, i up, space, iup, i+ golpe i up, amii i+golpe i up (rest) pai-p up, i down (space) m down i + golpe.

What that does is express with rasgueado (amii) the counts 1-3, also 7-8, the abanico accents & 10, and last golpe the 12. While this pattern could also express solea x buleria, or buleria, there would normally be different and better things to do, reserving what I wrote above as one specific "alegria only" pattern.

hope that helps.



ZaidRockso -> RE: Tapado difference between Bulerias and Alegrias (Oct. 20 2014 20:19:20)

Thanks Ricardo that's what i'm trying to do to overcome my confusion when playing the same tempo, play them in 2 different ways .

Thanks



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