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wiking -> Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 4 2014 2:44:56)

This is an often recommended thing to do, but over the years I've never had a nylon string guitar have a string slip with just one twist. I was reminded once more of this practice when I started in on flamenco a few months back- even finding a few that recommend triple-twisting the high e- but my Navarro student blanca, just like my previous classical, holds fast with just a single loop at the bridge on all 6. I've used Conde, Aquila, Hannabach and Dogal strings and none of them have come loose.

Seems like wearing a belt and suspenders at the same time, ie, a bit overkill.

Thoughts?



koenie17 -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 4 2014 8:52:23)

I prefer being on the safe side! So if it's a 6 hole bridge I always do a double twist, a string under tension
can leave a very nasty mark on your hand, or even worse on your french polished guitar top!
[:-]

It's not that big of an effort and it doesn't affect the sound, so why take the risk?
Mejor prevenir que curar!!!



tele -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 4 2014 10:50:14)

some including paco de lucia (in his kitchen black and white vid) tie the basses in "double twist". If a string breaks it is less likely to damage the top that way , or so I've heard



wiking -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 4 2014 20:16:19)

Maybe I'll just have to learn the hard way someday. Heh.

If I ever own a guitar that costs more than about $1000 I'll probably go the extra step. Mine's a student Navarro so it's not French polished, but the lacquer is very well done... I'll consider it for next time, maybe.



Richard Jernigan -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 5 2014 5:20:21)

I melt a little ball on the ends of the trebles, and double twist the first and second, single or double twist the third. I didn't always melt the little balls until a double twisted D'Addario first slipped and dinged my spruce/Brazilian Contreras doble tapa.

RNJ



JuanDaBomb -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 5 2014 6:12:21)

i think all that actually matters is that the final time the string goes under itself is behind the bridge. if u do that i dont think it matters how many times u twist. although i still twist them [;)] twice on the nylons and none for basses. i also burn in that little ball on the nylons like Richard does.



hando -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 7 2014 21:34:31)

I have to double twist the high e or it slips out. so annoying when I forget.

edit- i mean triple twist.



Blondie#2 -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 8 2014 7:50:12)

I just restrung with some Luthier strings for the first time. I always double twist the top E and always ensure that the final loop is behind the tie block. Despite this the top E was slipping out as I was tuning up, after about the third time it did this I triple looped it to hold it properly.



edguerin -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 8 2014 8:44:56)

quote:

until a double twisted D'Addario first slipped and dinged my spruce/Brazilian Contreras doble tapa


The same thing happened on my Bellido



gansz -> RE: Double-twisting treble strings at the bridge? (Jul. 16 2014 16:16:46)

Like Richard Jernigan, I've even taken to tying a knot in the ends of my treble strings on an 18-hole bridge after one slipped through!



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