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El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 20:00:47)

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Una farruca en Galicia
amargamente lloraba


not to get confused with the play on words of a girl from Galicia called Farruca and it was her that bitterly cried . because her boy , Farruco . died ...

yeah thats difficult to explain ....



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 21:22:42)

Is she still a Farruca if she's IN Galicia??



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 22:00:16)

well yes ,... she would still be called that even in Los Angelas . as it is her name ... I think it comes from the Arablic , kind of al-Farruqui, but not sure about that point ..
... sounds like a connection ......



Morante -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 23:02:18)

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a girl from Galicia called Farruca


She is not called Farruca, she is a farruca (a word similar to guiri or forastero)



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 23:06:55)

That's kinda what I was getting at, do Farrucos call each other Farruco or is it something other Spaniards use to describe them?



Ramon Amira -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 23:32:56)

Here's the way it's used - if someone gets a Spaniard ticked off, he says to them "Go farruca yourself."

Ramon



Morante -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 10 2014 23:35:29)

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That's kinda what I was getting at, do Farrucos call each other Farruco or is it something other Spaniards use to describe them?


Shouldnt think so[:D] The Andaluces use words like farruco and montañeses (literally people from the mountains, but referring to people from Galicia and Asturia etc who came looking for work when Cádiz was the richest city in Spain).

I imagine that people from the North have similar words for the Andalucians

[:D]



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 0:05:57)

Ah, como los de D.F. son Chilangos jajaja



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 18:05:15)

So heres a bad translation for you
wikipedia

Example Lyrics[edit]
Una farruca
en Galicia a una farruca (A girl named Farruca, from Galicia)
amargamente lloraba. (bitterly she cried.)

porque se habia
muerto su farruco (because her lover "Farruco" is dead)
y la gaita le tocaba. (her crying is like bagpipes.)

www.thefullwiki.


Farruca is a form of Flamenco music, probably originating in the Galicia region of north-western Spain. It is a light form typical of cante chico, and is traditionally danced only by men. It is seldom sung. [1]
The farruca is commonly played in the key of A minor [1], with each compás equivalent to 2 measures of 4/4 time with emphasis on the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th beats: [1] 2 [3] 4 [5] 6 [7] 8
"Farruca" is also a well-known song composed by Mary Ann Godla. The dance often has fast turns, quick intense footwork, held lifts and falls, dramatic poses and bursts of filigrana (often with a flat hand). It can also be danced with a cape.
Nobody has ever proven in any way that the Farruca came from Galicia. The earliest Farruca recordings are actually villancicos (Christmas songs) lyrics. There is only a very brief mention of Galicia by La Niña de los Peines. The name Farruca is etimological more connected to the Arabic language, in which the first name Faruk and the last name al-Farruqui are very common. Furthermore, the Farruca is very close to the Zambra in rhythm and flavor.
Reference



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 19:10:40)

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Una farruca
en Galicia a una farruca (A girl named Farruca, from Galicia)
amargamente lloraba. (bitterly she cried.)

porque se habia (Because had.....)
muerto su farruco (because her lover "Farruco" is dead)
y la gaita le tocaba. (her crying is like bagpipes.)


So a women named Farruca had a lover named Farruco????? I have always wondered what it would be like to make love to a woman named Kasey......

My guess would be this:
Una farruca (Galician girl)
en Galicia a una farruca (A Galician girl from Galicia)
amargamente lloraba. (bitterly she cried.)

porque se habia
muerto su farruco (because her Galician man is dead)
y la gaita le tocaba. (her crying is like bagpipes.)



Sr. Martins -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 19:37:29)

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porque se habia
muerto su farruco (because her Galician man is dead)
y la gaita le tocaba. (her crying is like bagpipes.)


I don't know if it's the same in spanish but in Portuguese, "gaita" also means d|ck. Besides that, "tocaba" also means touching so... "and the 'gaita' was touching her"... funny stuff. [:D]

I think "y la gaita le tocaba" means that the bagpipe was playing or that he was a bagpipe player, I see no mention to her crying.



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 19:53:23)

Actually yeah, you're right, missed that, they probably play the bagpipes when someone dies up there.



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 19:57:06)

no it doesnt mean the same thing as in portuguese...just try getting one to , tocar tu gaita ....

I mean blow a bagpipe , of course ..[8|]

it gets worse .......

http://es.thefreedictionary.com/

farruco, -ca adj. fam. Se aplica a la persona que se muestra excesivamente obstinada y desafiante o insolente.

farruco, -ca (dim. popular de Francisco)
adj.-s. fam.Díc. del gallego o asturiano recién salidos de su tierra.
adj. fig.Valiente, impávido.

farruco, farruca
adjetivo
coloquial valiente, impávido.


farruco ADJ → stroppy



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:03:08)

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adj.-s. fam.Díc. del gallego o asturiano recién salidos de su tierra.

I believe that's the one we're looking for.
You see! A Farruco is not a Farruco if he's still in Galicia! [:D]



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:05:46)

unless he came from Asturias

but yes ... sorry to push this way off the main point of your challenge proposal Leñador..

Anymore of this and the flamenco police will be here....
.....



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Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:11:07)

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but yes ... sorry to push this way off the main point of your challenge proposal Leñador..

Anymore of this and the flamenco police will be here....


Not at all, I think this was pretty interesting and I learned something. [:D]

Anyways.....FAKEMENCO CHALLENGE!!! jajajaja



athrane77 -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:19:43)

What about Morao-Periquin-Diego Amaya-Falseta-challenge?
Or Bulería falseta composing challenge.
Or Soleá falseta composing challenge.
Or Tangos falseta composing challenge.
??? Eh???



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:22:48)

I like those ideas.
What about, accompany ONE letra and play one falseta after, we've got a lot of accapellas in the cante accompaniment thread. We could pick one. Judged on correctness, tastefulness and creativity?????

O uno donde tocamos la gaita??? lol [:D]



athrane77 -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:27:45)

Good idea, one letra is a bit short, maybe 3?
I vote for Povedas record Que Borrachera
[:)]



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:30:58)

I'm down, but the problem I see is this. Most challenge participants are beginners and 3 letras is probably super intimidating. 1 letra is good to get there feet wet. Maybe the intermediates 2 letras and advanced 3?
beginners - one letra followed by falseta
intermediate - letra falseta letra falseta
advanced - intro letra falseta letra falseta letra out falseta
???



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athrane77 -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:39:52)

ok!
@shroomy
I just think the learning effect of a solo guitar challenge isn't very big.



guitarbuddha -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:44:55)

How about choosing a sung melody as the basis of a solo guitar arrangement ?

Melody to be easily recognisable from performance, harmony to make sense and falsetas to reflect the melody.

D.



guitarbuddha -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:46:58)

Here is a nice one, and I think we've all see it.



And I am not joking I REALLY like that vocal.

D.



athrane77 -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:51:20)

good idea from guitarbuddha
a lot better then playing any solo piece



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 20:54:21)

This all sounds good to me!



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 21:29:30)

is this like you need recordings of cante without the guitar so you can put it on ?



guitarbuddha -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 21:41:51)

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ORIGINAL: El Kiko

is this like you need recordings of cante without the guitar so you can put it on ?


Well you could filter out the rest of the band[8|]



El Kiko -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 21:48:38)

no , you can get track for practice of cante with and without guitar etc ... i dont have any but some members here do ..
there are some by David Leiva.......



Leñador -> RE: Farruca Challenge??? (Jun. 11 2014 21:54:06)

Why not take that video Buddha posted and create a solo guitar piece based on that specific sung melody?? Why do you need tracks of any kind except that youtube clip? It's best interpretation wins.....



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