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JuanDaBomb -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 26 2014 17:47:43)

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Arash -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 26 2014 18:34:16)

my favourite is track 1



Sr. Martins -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 28 2014 23:13:49)

Anyone knows if Paco was digging fado?

There's loads of it on this album, chord progressions, phrasing, the mix/arrangements (similar to current fado).. even the sharp "steely" guitar tones.



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Bulerias2005 -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 0:58:12)

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ORIGINAL: Shroomy726

It's not that I like this album because I am a Paco worshiper. I like it because I have ears.

Some very premature opinions here in my opinion. Never bash an album until you've listened to it several times and you "get it". It's hard to "get" music that was given so much thought in just a few listens.

Agreed. I hesitated to post at all until I had listened to it ~6 or 7 times, and even then. Now that I'm past my twenty-fifth listen (probably more), I can safely say that this disk fits quite nicely in Paco's discography, and that I would not necessarily be inclined to compare it to his strictly flamenco output. Not because this is better or worse, but because my mode of analysis is different. As Rui Martins pointed out, there is a definite fado influence. Many of the arrangements (especially tracks three and five) remind me of the Albeniz trifecta at the end of the Aranjuez disk. The one thing I will say is that Paco's playing seems to be significantly subdued. Whether this is due to age or because he had simply grown tired of incessant picado and technical flashiness, it's difficult to say. But it's also not for me to judge, because the music is still great (obviously!).



Pimientito -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 17:37:10)

Cancion Andaluza went on sale today so I picked up a copy this morning. Ive listened to the downloads last week but its not the same as putting the CD on in the car and turning up the volume. The CD comes with some nice photos.

I really need to listen a few more times but my inital impression is that this is the work of a musician who has really come full circle in his career. From child prodigy to virtuoso to a master of technique and composition, it would be very unlikely for him to have come up with another album of the same groundbreaking status as Fuente y caudal or Siroco or Zyryab.

In Cancion Andaluza Paco has really shown us his mastership as an arranger. For me this album shows a real love of cante and a tribute to his first recording experiences with Ramon and Ricardo Modrego. However this material has has been interpreted with true Flamenco spirit and with the lifelong learning of a modern genius. For example track 3 "romance de Valentia" has 4 guitar parts that I can count and bass. Its a beautiful arrangement of "question and answer" phrasing with some choice harmonies. Having gone through this process myself I know how hard it is to have so many harmonies and remain faithful to the Flamenco sound.

As a frustrated singer Paco uses the guitar as his voice in Cancion Andaluza to pay homage to the roots of Cante Flamenco and Spanish folk music. I think its an extremely interesting and appropriate final curtain for a musician who invented so much in his lifetime to reflect on the music that inspired his life and career.



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tri7/5 -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 18:16:13)

Is that a blanca in the picture under the cd? If so can you tell what kind? Just curious mostly since you rarely see him with one.



Pimientito -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 19:34:44)

Guitars are listed in the credits
Hermanos Conde
Tony Morales
Lester Devoe
Pepe Romero

Not sure which one is in the photo (although obviously not Conde)



Estevan -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 20:39:14)

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Guitars are listed in the credits
Hermanos Conde
Tony Morales
Lester Devoe
Pepe Romero

Not sure which one is in the photo (although obviously not Conde)

It's not the Pepe either:

Paco de Lucía's New Guitar



cigany -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 29 2014 22:00:27)

I'm interested to know the palos for each track. Or are they too mixed to categorize traditionally? Does "opens siguiriya, follows and culminates in rumba bolero" for Track 2 (Ojos Veredes) sound right? Track 4 (Te He De...) "Bolero"?



Bulerias2005 -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 30 2014 0:01:55)

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ORIGINAL: cigany

I'm interested to know the palos for each track. Or are they too mixed to categorize traditionally? Does "opens siguiriya, follows and culminates in rumba bolero" for Track 2 (Ojos Veredes) sound right? Track 4 (Te He De...) "Bolero"?

Not sure if it makes sense to categorize them by palos... the music isn't really flamenco, strictly speaking... in that sense, the album reminds me of Nunez's "Travesia"... hardly a knock against either album, but the artistic intention was (seemingly) to venture outside of the realm of flamenco...



Sr. Martins -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 30 2014 0:23:22)

The guitar sounds are... meh.

Sounds like steel strings. The lack of "left hand does all the job" falsetas also contributes to this IMO.



gj Michelob -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 30 2014 1:42:39)

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Cancion Andaluza went on sale today so I picked up a copy this morning. Ive listened to the downloads last week but its not the same as putting the CD on in the car and turning up the volume. The CD comes with some nice photos.

I really need to listen a few more times but my inital impression is that this is the work of a musician who has really come full circle in his career. From child prodigy to virtuoso to a master of technique and composition, it would be very unlikely for him to have come up with another album of the same groundbreaking status as Fuente y caudal or Siroco or Zyryab.

In Cancion Andaluza Paco has really shown us his mastership as an arranger. For me this album shows a real love of cante and a tribute to his first recording experiences with Ramon and Ricardo Modrego. However this material has has been interpreted with true Flamenco spirit and with the lifelong learning of a modern genius. For example track 3 "romance de Valentia" has 4 guitar parts that I can count and bass. Its a beautiful arrangement of "question and answer" phrasing with some choice harmonies. Having gone through this process myself I know how hard it is to have so many harmonies and remain faithful to the Flamenco sound.

As a frustrated singer Paco uses the guitar as his voice in Cancion Andaluza to pay homage to the roots of Cante Flamenco and Spanish folk music. I think its an extremely interesting and appropriate final curtain for a musician who invented so much in his lifetime to reflect on the music that inspired his life and career.


A very elegant review, as always.



Ricardo -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 30 2014 3:08:47)

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Cancion Andaluza went on sale today so I picked up a copy this morning. Ive listened to the downloads last week but its not the same as putting the CD on in the car and turning up the volume. The CD comes with some nice photos.


I really like CD cases and photos and stuff. I hate when it becomes about downloading or disc with a single slip card.



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mark indigo -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (Apr. 30 2014 13:00:34)

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Not sure if it makes sense to categorize them by palos... the music isn't really flamenco, strictly speaking...

er.... I'm not hearing any palos (a little snatch of siguiriyas doesn't count...), this is not flamenco at all.
That's not to disparage it, I don't think it was ever intended to be.
I have been listening to it since it was put up on YouTube and my copy of the CD was sent out (from Madrid) today.
The sentimental tunes make me feel really sad now the Maestro is gone.

Interesting that Paco's career had come full circle after having recorded some of these canciones right at the beginning.
Also pointless to think that if he was feeling nostalgic for his youth his next album might have been a whole disc of siguiriyas or re-workings of Niño Ricardo....[:(]



Doitsujin -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 5 2014 7:31:41)

I just bought it but didnt listen so far. Too many important things are going on right now.. I cant risc it. Im just curious if you dudes just exxegerate with your opinion only coz its Paco, or if it is really that good. I will find out by myself later.



Thomas -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 5 2014 8:23:13)

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I just bought it but didnt listen so far. Too many important things are going on right now.. I cant risc it. Im just curious if you dudes just exxegerate with your opinion only coz its Paco, or if it is really that good. I will find out by myself


eagerly awaiting your profound review [8|]



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Arash -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 5 2014 15:07:46)

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ORIGINAL: Doitsujin

I just bought it but didnt listen so far. Too many important things are going on right now.. I cant risc it. Im just curious if you dudes just exxegerate with your opinion only coz its Paco, or if it is really that good. I will find out by myself later.


Doit, make an unboxing video of the CD first, before the review [:D]
That ricecooker vid was awesome



Doitsujin -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 5 2014 23:50:43)

Haha unfortunately i bought the digital version. Coz here, waste seperation is a pain in the ass. Disposing in general... First couple of month i froze some **** coz i didnt get it when to put it where in which colored bag, and which parts of it in which other bag at what time and which day..xD

I will proly listen to it in a few weeks and share my incredible wisdom on it of course....;))



Erik van Goch -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 6 2014 18:41:36)

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ORIGINAL: Doitsujin

I will proly listen to it in a few weeks and share my incredible wisdom on it of course....;))


Be warned....... it does contain some Paco de Lucia stuff ;-)



ashod -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 7 2014 0:08:45)

I've been listening to it the past few days, two or three times a day. And I love it.

I was very surprised the first time I listenend to it, but I did recognize Paco's touch immediately.
When I listen to other Paco albums, I can't do anything at the same time, because it's too "powerfull" and disturbs me in whatever I'm doing if I don't give my full attention to the music.
This album however, is very easy to listen in the background, and yet, if you focus on the music, it's very powerfull as well.

I love every single piece on it.
Ole Paco, thanks for your last masterpiece.



Doitsujin -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 12 2014 7:53:13)

Its nice music. *I deleted it.



Doitsujin -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 17 2014 7:22:35)

And as i did so. My life became better! Thats really too bad that music of the king is cursed. Better would be oscar herrero or paco serrano. Damn it!



Arash -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 17 2014 10:15:48)

Its probably because you bought the cheaper download version, or even worse, you downloaded Gods music illegally.

Buy the original CD, unbox it slowly and with passion, read the booklet, film it and upload it to youtube ..... then, listen to the CD 24 hours a day for one month .... show your sincere remorse ,,,, or the curse of the king will return and you shall be cursed for the rest of your life. If you dont do that, you will magically forget all your chicuelo, tomatito and Jason's falsetas at one night with a half moon pretty soon and all your falsetas will be replaced by kings falsetas at that night. When you wake up, you will be a guitar zombie for the rest of your life, playing Pacos stuff all day long without wanting to.



pink -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 17 2014 21:18:44)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

Its probably because you bought the cheaper download version, or even worse, you downloaded Gods music illegally.

Buy the original CD, unbox it slowly and with passion, read the booklet, film it and upload it to youtube ..... then, listen to the CD 24 hours a day for one month .... show your sincere remorse ,,,, or the curse of the king will return and you shall be cursed for the rest of your life. If you dont do that, you will magically forget all your chicuelo, tomatito and Jason's falsetas at one night with a half moon pretty soon and all your falsetas will be replaced by kings falsetas at that night. When you wake up, you will be a guitar zombie for the rest of your life, playing Pacos stuff all day long without wanting to.



Also your genitals will turn into half chewed jelly babies and you will only be liked by people who have been severely beaten with the ugly stick and who openly masturbate to euro pop tunes.....in public!

Best

pink



Baki -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 17 2014 21:45:00)

the 2nd track is the best track in my opinion



Doitsujin -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 18 2014 5:42:33)

Ou the testicle one is a strog argument! :| But i identfyed another flamenco guitarist whose music has the exact opposite effect on me. So i can balance it out without testicle shrinkage xD



Pimientito -> RE: Listen to Cancion Andaluza (May 22 2014 10:02:23)

Cancion Andaluza is now the Number 1 best selling Album in Spain acording to the radio today!!!



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