Ruphus -> RE: Ron's Bulerias (Mar. 18 2014 8:35:06)
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ORIGINAL: Arash What you are doing right now sounds a bit masochistic to me. Uh yeah, thanks a bunch. In fact I have nothing in common with neither a masochist nor with a sadist. And that piece of bold propaganda that you posted is just as authentic like the soundtrack it comes with. Though I could only see it to 1:50 I can tell you already that it is full of bull. In all the years I have only met about 4 persons of this cultural sphere whome I would entrust with an animal. Even in the hands of an animal lover of that origin, commonly hell breaks lose for the poor creature. For the usual owner completely lacking on actual / modern / useful info (, which even the vets are being scarce of) the "pet" will always remain an exposed thing and you can typically sense the creatures primary appreciation of been let alive in the first place. Usually the "animal lover" of that mentality will obtain a pet by its shape and colors, which tells it all. It´s like picking plants for decoration, not bound to the actual creature at all. quote:
ORIGINAL: Arash Its for sure not like Germany (in terms of how dogs and cats are treated) , ... I can ensure you that the place I am is considered liberal compared to the atmosphere existing in Tehran. What dogs and cats inn Tehran are concerned, last year 30 of confiscated dogs were ( intentionally, you bet) left unfed to perish from thirst and hunger, whilst the parliament decided that cats in cities shall be decimated just like dogs too. Further, waht do you mean by: "not like Germany (in terms of how dogs and cats are treated)?" Meaning that aside of animal mistreatment it could be anyway near standards of western civilization? The only items in common with western conditions are western innovations and products as outer attributes. Clothing, watches, cell phones, cars, etc. But already in the way of use the difference begins. Germany with a population of similar size and more vehicles on a geographical surface of 1/5 has a traffic toll of less than 5000 deaths yearly, with the state by statement of last year aiming for further reduction. In Iran that you mention death toll has had 124 000 deaths last time I checked. Due to a severe intellectual lack that primitively yields with the premisse of: "Me first, and to hell with the rest!" Just treatment of dogs and cats? Instead of down-playing the conditions of the culture you defend, take notice of literal Sodom & Gomorra. Of a fundamental lack of ethics, of a history without philosophical attempt to deal with pragmatical mutuality, and a dogma which reduces decency to suppressed sexuality and devoutness while leaving actual delicts excusable. Take a look at the condition of court houses in Tehran. See how soldiers have to manage doors for to prevent overrunning by the hosts of people and how legal procedure due to the permanent onrush has turned into a disgraceful shrift on the fly with doors open and folks running in midst of trials and interrupting all the time for questions / files of other cases. Jeez; with uncivilized customs people cannot even stand in lines. They will bypass and interrupt while not even personel behind counters can see any problem with such rude behaviour. A defendant is even allowed to lie before court as a means to defend himself!! Will that do for now to figure pillars of mentality aside from animal tormenting? I am experiencing selfishness, craftiness, unscrupulousness, and shamelessness about all this all the time and beyond believe, and you are reducing it on the curelty against animals!? It is berserk and cruelty as a whole and you are not ashamed of trying to level such a blatant dissolution to boot. Major city as pendant; what nonesense. If you had hypothetically pointed to some remote rural example instead where people might have some dignity left over, but pointing to a place like Tehran as what, civilized example?! You think insignia of the West like fashionable hair cuts or cars make for advanced condition? And indeed such perspective would not wonder me. I have an Iranian friend living in Germany who remains simply blind in view of certain basic ethical issues, as he grew up in Tehran, though only until teen age. Though otherwise a fine guy, he is still missing out on ethical basics and I tell him all the time to get himself an ethical primer, so that he can understand how the logic of ethics works. He won´t however, instead he keeps acting offended each time that I recommend the lecture. Just like you, Arash. You are a blind, viewing blatant sites as `just another way of living´. Ruphus
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