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Ricardo -> RE: How many beats is one compas of tangos? (Feb. 19 2014 15:03:52)
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ORIGINAL: Lenador
Yeah, I totally get the 8 beat compas cycle thing so that makes sense to me. I feel like when cante is involved it all goes out the window. They can hang on a note for 4 extra beats and really just do whatever they want so if your stuck thinking about everything in 8's your gunna be thrown off. I've heard the word I think "ruido"(dunno if I'm spelling it right) thrown around and I always translated it as a cycle but she said it's synonymous for compas, one ruido = one compas. Eventually I just said, "Fine, how many beats does this section last?" lol
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one to run into this. [:D]
Stop getting all hung up about it and understand you are working on communication skill. THere might be different ways to call or describe the same thing, just as in learning a different language. If the dancer says one compas = 8 then you must believe her...unless YOU think YOU are the teacher here. Anyway about "a compas" vs "half compas".....
again, we cover this topic A LOT in the archives. Buleria vs solea por buleria vs solea similar issues you find in Rumba vs tangos vs tientos. A single compas the first group is defined by 12 counts. (or beats but I prefer that someone define a "beat" before using that term cuz it can mean different things). A half compas, therefore will be only 6 counts....long or short from a full single compas based on the musical phrase at hand. It stands to reason then the second group of palos has the single compas defined by 8 counts (again beats might be something else) and a half compas only 4.
In both cases the terms come in handy when communicating with dancers, not so much with singers. However, you find similar trends for both. A singer that works for dancers a lot will of course use the same terminology. ("una falseta, estribillo, y despues de un compas, la letra....etc). The up tempo forms gets away with lots of half compas units, the middle tempo forms tend to be more strict and square, and the slow forms more elastic. Half compases I find to be comparatively rare in the slower forms, though they do infact occur as we discussed numerous times. There are no rules about it.
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