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aeolus -> Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 15:33:03)
Transcribing a part of a falseta by Melchorde Marchena to Guitar Pro the third bar is high lighted in red indicating an error yet it was what was on the original and to it seems to add up. At a metronome marking of quarter note = 74, it seem way to fast when compared to the context. Might another way of notating this part yield a better result? Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Ricardo -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:22:10)
It looks funny try this: 8th 3 16th note triplets 3 16th note triplets that is the first beat, second beat should be same idea, 3 groups of 3 16th note triplets. The way the beaming will look will be more correct and the computer probably won't be so confused. (when I say "beat" I refer to the dotted quarter note as the beat when I encouter 6/8 meter). THe mistake made is the 6:2 thing is reserved for SAME RHYTHM groupings. IN other words 5:4 means 5 16th notes or whatever IN PLACE of 4 16th notes. The implication of your score was 6 16th notes in place of TWO 16th note, not 2 eighth notes.

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:23:18)
Why are you doing this ? Worst error there is the misspelling of C# as Db (giving you a tonic chord (A) without a third). There are six and nine semiquavers in the space of four and six respectively. So the brackets should be 6:4 and 9:6. Better still group them in threes as triplets avoiding the need to define tuplets at all. D.

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:32:57)
quote: Worst error there is the misspelling of C# as Db (giving you a tonic chord (A) without a third). Well of course C# is the same pitch as Db so it really doesn't make any difference as far as I can see in this situation.

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:33:37)
Know purblem.

Ricardo -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:36:54)
quote: Worst error there is the misspelling of C# as Db (giving you a tonic chord (A) without a third). Probably a glitch with the software. I had the same problem with GP5 doing my transcriptions via tab. You can go back and re enter by hand the proper notes but then the tab is auto generated to a different fret than you intended. A catch 22 where most guitar players will favor the tab over the enharmonic error. Ricardo

Ricardo -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:38:52)
quote: ORIGINAL: aeolus quote: Worst error there is the misspelling of C# as Db (giving you a tonic chord (A) without a third). Well of course C# is the same pitch as Db so it really doesn't make any difference as far as I can see in this situation. Enharmonic misspelling are sort of insulting. [:D]

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 16:41:34)
I think that the algorithm presumes that if there are sharps in the key signature it should use sharps for accidentals and when flats flats. This is not at all satisfactory for minor keys or modal music. You don't see a lot of this kind of thing but boy does it make me embarrassed as a guitarist when I do (case in point MelBay reedition of Marcel Dadi tablature, risible lack of knowledge and professionalism). D.

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 17:25:48)
Sorry about the super size but this is the only way I could capture it. http://www.paulbowles.org/composer.html Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 18:19:27)
I lost interest in the middle of that A., probably because the spelling wasn't random enough to strike me as creative. D.

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 18:30:12)
quote: 8th 3 16th note triplets 3 16th note triplets Yeah, that does it. Thanks.

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 16 2014 22:01:46)
quote: I lost interest in the middle of that A., probably because the spelling wasn't random enough to strike me as creative. D. Your loss. :D

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 7:08:32)
quote: ORIGINAL: aeolus Your loss. :D I'VE missed the point ? D.

Ricardo -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 13:03:16)
quote: ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha quote: ORIGINAL: aeolus Your loss. :D I'VE missed the point ? D. [:D]

Sr. Martins -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 14:08:24)
:D. Is everyone happy now? [sm=tongue.gif]

Ricardo -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 14:53:42)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rui Martins :D. Is everyone happy now? [sm=tongue.gif] no

guitarbuddha -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 15:08:31)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rui Martins :D. Is everyone happy now? [sm=tongue.gif] Kinda laughing at myself for bothering to answer in the first place. D.

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 23:20:06)
Laughing at yourself? any way pursuing the question of enharmonic whatchamacallits further i see I had a choice of keys at the outset as so: I don't know what concert tone means but I am offered a choice of Fb and Db minor. I didn't notice this key( they are all tiny beyond belief) until after I had run the program and i was surprised to see c# noted as db. I tried changing keys with out success. From what I have read determining keys is not cut and dried but the manner of adding notes to the score is using a pop up fingerboard and clicking on the desired note. It was out of my control whether c# ir db was chosen. I am wondering why the flat note was selected. Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Sr. Martins -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 17 2014 23:51:51)
You can add notes by pressing numbers on the tab or the "enter" key on the staff, no need for that fingerboard thing.

El Kiko -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 18 2014 9:37:22)
I do not use the programme that you have but i see the little pic you posted on your last message and it looks like , to me , it says Dm ( not Dbm ) and the flat symbol is to indicate that this key signature has 1 flat ..as it is the relative minor of F maj ...i.e. 1 flat .. (which is Bb) since you are in a flat key it is likely that most of you accidentals will be flats rather than sharps ... Probably if you were in say B min it would show 2 sharps as it is the relative minor of D maj ...and all your accidentals would be sharps ... as I said I do not really use this programme .. I do have a few programms I use to try to transcribe but spend a lot of time fighting against them when they try to follow built in 'rules' that go against my situation ... A pencil and paper for me is far quicker ..except for the presentation bit I much prefer it ...

aeolus -> RE: Notation question (Feb. 18 2014 10:04:12)
quote: A pencil and paper for me is far quicker ..except for the presentation bit I much prefer it ... I know what you mean like trying to learn CAD drafting and fighting the urge to go back to T square and pencil.

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