Ruphus -> RE: Internet sometimes so lacking basic info (Feb. 8 2014 9:52:36)
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I must be talking Chinese. I´ll try again. # I absolutely had no intentions of keeping dogs here. After all, I did not refrain from doing so in Germany to then start keeping any over here. The reason they are here is because I just could not watch a stray dog´s third litter to perish in the way her first two had. These dogs were not sheltered with the intention of keeping all four. Plan was to give away two of them ( and you can read above, two were in fact given away already, only that I realized the true quality of the new owners and rescued them back after only 5 hours. - With those hours been enough to almost suffocate the male and have the female terrorized in a way that it took her over a year to normalize to a certain degree. Don´t want to mention what seems to have been done to her.) # So, why are they here still? Because best keepers I could observe here are still careless and totally uninformed ( even vets have nor real clue. They are educated to maximize cattle product). Not to mention common keeping. You think condiotions at my place are cruel and that I should give them to someone here? That´s quite the irony. And yet, last time I called the vet asking whether he knew of potential hosts has been yesterday. What will he reply usually? Like: "The problem is that you are overly critical. You want to look after them, and you will fault the way new owners will treat them. As a result both of you will be angry on me." Me: "As a veterinarian you should know that chaining up dogs ( besides, chains often hardly of 2m length here) all in the open without hut, locking them in dark booths over the day and feeding them bread or chicken carrion from deseases on chicken farms is less than suboptimal. All I want is just a decent life for them, nothing too special." # As you mentioned yourself training dogs takes some space. In the ~ 80 qm of the yard ( ~ 200 when I open the garage ) I get frustrated myself when training them. Without trying to make an excuse of it for my too little engagement. I will substantially increase occupying them. ( In summer I was practicsing with them like every second day. But only for about ~ half an hour.) # The self-rewarding aspect that you impute to me really is cynism to me. You don´t know what I have been through. Starting with the endless trips to the vet, added three operations, one month of days & night nursing with setting up and supervising infusions after the first poisioning. Daily wiping up blood and tissue that would come out their rears. All the time wringing hands that they may survive ( with the doc certain that they could not). Troubles with the nackers of several quarters around, with all kinds of actions including beatings. As if conditions weren´t bad enough, taking care for the dogs has made a literal hell out of my life. Rewarding myself with this; my ass. And down to having to cook their meals twice a day. Me who is so lazy with this kind of things that I neglect myself. My dogs eat better food than yours truely. I may skip a meal every other time, theirs have been skipped altogether three times in 2 years. ( I avoid that, because Charlie will lose appetite when there be too long until next meal. Probably because they did not reinsert his guts correctly after surgery.) And not at last, feeding them at hyper inflation and paying the vet again and again leaves me with expenses of at least 1000 bucks per month. Probably even more, I haven´t dared to actually sum it all up. # And now you think I might light-heartedly bring two of them to the doc and let them euthanasized? We had to do this with my beloved cat in April last year, because of him been a methusalem, and I have not overcome that memory one bit until now. I am not stupid when being desperate. I am looking at my wounded dogs today and I could smash my head against the wall. - What instructional works are concerned I would love to know who the guys is I mentioned above. If you don´t know who he could be, let your own suggestions come, please. - I am member in a really well informed forum for live stock guarding dogs. Inlcuding members who studied kynology and others who are inquired as pexperts before court, owners and stuff in shelters, certificat trainers etc. That neutering would always help is a misinformation. If you mention it there everyone will jump on you. And it would be weird coincident that so many experienced people could be erring simultaneously. Had I known that I would get stuck with all four of them I would had neutered the males with young age. Now they have had sex already and would know what they be missing. - What the degree of cruelty is concerned. The wounds that have occured so far were often looking pretty bad at first when they swollen up, but healed amazingly fast. I know that among keepers of guarding dogs such injuries occure from time to time. And commonly the brothers are like this. Pic from some nights ago: Only yesterday, things appeared different and I am now more worried than before. Have arranged for someone to come over tomorrow, for us to walk the dogs notwithstandingly and try systematically to appease them. Only if you mean the steady invadors, then I must fully agree. That is hell for the poor animals. And for me. Ruphus
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