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Ryan002 -> Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 25 2005 13:21:36)

I would just like to ask if the thumb continues to use rest strokes while I am doing the Flamenco tremolo.




sorin popovici -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 25 2005 13:52:37)

yes....that's the main difference between
classical and flamenco tremolo(i think),
apart from using piami instead of the classical pami.
It's very hard to use pami with p apoyando ...for example to play recuerdos de
alhambra .


i've seen though pami tremolo apoyando and it's possible.




Skai -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 25 2005 16:32:24)

It seems that the pulgar in flamenco tremolo plays almost all rest strokes. In classical pami tremolo, a rest stroke is sometimes thrown in here and there for emphasis.




Ryan002 -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 28 2005 8:00:38)

I flat out cannot do it. Can anyone reccomend any training exercises? I have the piami sequence already, I just cram up when I try ti use rest strokes. Also, in the event that the p rests on the first string, what do I do?




fevictor -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 28 2005 14:57:16)

I have the same problem. I find that if i do rest strokes my hand will rotate away from the strings so that my thumb can rest on the string, and then I just lose my rythm. I heard someone say to practice on the B string to get good, but that just seems like an impossible task!




Ricardo -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 28 2005 17:46:40)

Practice the tremolo like this: iamiP........iamiP.........iamiP.......where you have a long pause after the thumb plays. The fingers play really fast, and the thumb plays a strong rest stroke and stays there until the next speed burst of "iami". After awhile you get very comfortable resting with the thumb, it gives stability to the hand and strength to your fingers so you can play louder and still have a relaxed arm. It is sort of like you fall into the weight of your thumb stroke.

Anyway, this is not an even tremolo, but once you get this feeling you can slow the iami part down and close the gaps that come after the thumb stroke. The goal is to play all the notes evenly of course, but since it is an odd rhythm anyway, the flamenco tremolo can breath a little. Practice any tremolo you already know this way.

When you have the thumb stroke on the adjacent string to the melody note, you can rest than move quick. But in reality, when playing evenly, you probably would play that thumb stroke tirando.

Ricardo




Ryan002 -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 29 2005 5:47:10)

Thanks Ricardo. I am trying it now...

Can I ask what a tirando is though? Sorry I am bad with terminology...




Jon Boyes -> RE: Pulgar in Tremolo (Nov. 29 2005 8:56:56)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ryan002
Can I ask what a tirando is though? Sorry I am bad with terminology...


Free stroke.




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