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gabasa -> Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 18 2013 19:18:02)

One well known luthier told me that he loves how this guitar has a flamenco-ish character to it because of the Spanish cedar back and sides. Just out of curiosity, what do you think? Can you hear it? Bear in mind, this is a classical instrument!




Arash -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 18 2013 19:32:38)

its cypress back and sides, cedar is the neck.
standard material used in flamenco guitars.
Jeff Sigurdson also makes "pure" flamenco guitars.



gabasa -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 18 2013 19:58:59)

Whoops, my bad......

Yes, Spanish cypress back and sides, Spanish cedar neck, and German spruce top.

Thanks.



aeolus -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 18 2013 21:22:10)

Eliot Fisk is playing a Connor that might be cypress if not maple. Supposedly Brazilian would give a "darker" sound. and from what I see on Youtube the top line flamencos are using negras some even with cedar tops. So Fisk seems to be odd man out and the rosewood body seems to be trending in favor with flamencos. As to the recording it sounds a little brighter than usual but certainly not like a traditional light weight flamenco.



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 19 2013 6:57:32)

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Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character?  


Impossible to judge because the video is with spanish classical music played on a classical guitars by a classical guitarist using a classical tecnique.

That said, cypress is a wonderfull tonewood. I have not made a classical (yet) but I´ve made a couple of hybryd (flamenco - classical crossovers) with cypress for the back and sides and I really liked them



rletson -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 19 2013 20:48:30)

It's a nice-sounding instrument, but (within the limits of internet/YouTube audio), I wouldn't say it sounds any different from any number of classical guitars I've heard. Of course, as Anders points out, we're hearing classical technique, and that is certainly determining what we hear in the video. One would like to hear the guitar in the hands of a flamenco player, doing some flamenco repertory.



aeolus -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 19 2013 21:06:02)

Here is Fisk with what is probably cypress body as Connor offers a cypress flamenco and is enthusiastic about it as a wood. It sounds like any other top quality classical and given the the characteristics of the piece no comparison is possible.




gabasa -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 20 2013 3:09:24)

Isn't that flame maple?



Leñador -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 20 2013 3:30:03)

Whoa dude, Andy Dick can get down!



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 20 2013 7:15:21)

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One would like to hear the guitar in the hands of a flamenco player, doing some flamenco repertory.


I´m 99% sure it will sound very classical. IMHO, the diference between a classical guitar and a flamenco guitar lies mainly in what has been done to the soundboard, to some degree in the bridge mass and to a smaller degree in the wood chosen for the back and sides.



aeolus -> RE: Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character? (Dec. 20 2013 14:58:14)

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Isn't that flame maple?


Back & Sides

Rosewood
Cypress
Koa
European Maple

From Connor's website listing the woods he uses so it could just as easily be European Mable.. It's rare from my experience and watching videos on YouTubere to see a top classical player with something other than rosewood I would guess that Maple is denser than cypress and hence better suited to classical.



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