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Anders Eliasson -> RE: ebay question (Nov. 26 2013 7:20:47)
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I don't think they consider cheating kind of acceptable in spain. It's more like they don't take being honest or keeping their word so seriously like in finland for example. I have spent only 6 months in spain but I certainly don't see them as cheaters or liars at all, more like more "lightminded" and not taking things very seriously. How can it be acceptable to lie or cheat in any country? Sure in some countries people cheat more than in others but still it can't be said it's overall accepted as if you lose for example 100 euros because your buddy don't want to pay back your loan even if he promised it doesn't mean if you're spanish you will just accept it.
I kind of agree with what you say. I like the word lightminded and your discription of what honesty is. And may I did choose the wrong words when I in my third language tried to explain something that is going on in the country where my second language is in use. Things are that its a very complex thing do explain. Just like culture always is because we always look at foreign cultures with the eyes of our own culture.
But try staying here 4 - 5 years or more, buy a house, a car. landnet telephone and internet etc. You know normal stuff and you´ll get a view that is much more complex and very far from nice. Banks , insurrance companies, telephone companies etc. ALL cheat... And since its so extremely complicated to do anything, very little is done. Spain is VERY far from Scandinavia in these things. (And I havent told you about how it is with people fixing you car and your house.... pufff)
On the other hands, Spain or lets say Andalucia, because thats where we are, are wonderfull places to stay as long as you dont stick your nose to far into society. I would love to be here, with money from outside, just renting a place to stay for a couple of years and so. Not getting involved in society, just being plain oldfashion "guiry", enjoying life, a bit of flamenco, the sun, a glass of Rioja, some tapas. You know the life that the huge majority of foreigners do here. Spaniards are extremely good at making yoiu feel good. I dont know anyone better at doing that.
Back to Ebay. I´m happy that Ebay works well in some places, but dont make the error that is done so much on this board and that is to think that because things are one way in your backyeard, it´ll work the same everywhere else. Not everyone here lives in The US, UK, Germany etc and there´s a whole big world outside, that works very differently.
Just an example, I bought a violin bow on Ebay Spain. The seller had 20 possitive votes. The bow never arrived, the seller had "lost" the ticket from the post office. I contacted Ebay. They were very slow, I had to wait, send them things etc. I never got any money back and I decided that my time was better being used other places. I could tell more personal stories about Ebay Spain, but its just the same. And in the end you just give up. I dont buy stuff on Ebay Spain. I just bought 2 new batteries for my camera, and I did so in Ebay UK.
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