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rogeliocan -> changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 13:31:09)

before I get beheaded, this relates to lutherie right?

Just in case I will say something about Conde so at least one part of the message will be relevant:
Ohhhh Condes.
There.

I want to switch tuners on 2 guitars, I notice that the three of the holes are perfectly aligned and one is not. If they are perfectly aligned it's a no brainer and I just re-screw. If the original hole is close, I fill it with something before screwing the new one in? With what?



estebanana -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 13:39:41)

Can you show a picture of the situation? Usually you plug the hole with wood, and re-drill it. You have to turn a dowel exactly the right size to fit the hole. That's one way to do it, but each situation is a little different. More information would be helpful.



Ricardo -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 15:03:47)

Just screw it in by hand, no drill.

Unless it's a Conde of course.



rogeliocan -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 17:23:13)

here is what I am interchanging from one guitar to another. I think the little screws line up perfectly except for one. I will be able to tell when I try it on.

http://www.g-gotoh.com/international/?btp_product=35g1800

The other pair are Sloane 5706 but I can't find them online.

When I fill up drill holes for stuff at home I just use toothpicks, quick and dirty. Don't want to do this here, what do I use?

Thanks for the help.

And for Condes, no, no need for screws, they hold by duende, magic!



Ricardo -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 17:27:23)

No joke, I don't see a need to fill it unless you are using different (smaller) sized screw or your new hole location is gonna be right on the edge of the old hole. Cosmetically you won't see the old hole anyway, and never know a new set of machines in the distant future might make use of the old hole.

Ricardo



rogeliocan -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 17:55:05)

Got it Ricardo. But in the event that the hole is shifted just a bit, like midway, if I don't fill it up, the screw will probably go in crooked or won't be very solid. Then I use what?



Ricardo -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 20:47:13)

I guess then you would need some kind of wood filler or glue.



orsonw -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 21 2013 23:01:51)

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=122567&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=tuners%2Cscrew%2Choles&tmode=&smode=&s=#122567



estebanana -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 22 2013 0:25:36)

Oh I see you meant the screw not the tuner barrel.

Plug the old holes with a toothpick dipped in white glue.

Clip them off with a nail clipper, flatten a bit with a tiny bit of sanding.

Then re-punch a guide hole with a small nail and screw the screw in.

Make sure the nail is smaller in diameter than the screw.



rogeliocan -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 22 2013 1:10:23)

super, thanks a lot everyone. Simple, but wanted to do it right.



orsonw -> RE: changing tuners (Sep. 22 2013 10:03:04)

At least in the UK, it may be best to shop for "cocktail sticks" rather than "toothpicks".

As mentioned in the thread I linked to earlier I find masking tape useful to avoid scratching the finish when cutting the stick end with a blade and then when sanding flat. (I find a nail file does a good job as the sanding tool)

The masking tape can pull off finish too, so take some of the glue off the tape first by sticking and unsticking a few times on your skin or some cloth.



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