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gerundino63 -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 10:46:46)
Thanks Grisha, Very nice video never heard his name before.I Impressive music, very stainge to hear two guitars.......[:D]

Erik van Goch -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 12:43:08)
quote: ORIGINAL: kikkoman i have still yet to hear it played with more aplomb and adventure than kazuhito yamashitas version. In his hands the beginning does indeed sound a bit like a theme that could be used for a japanese martial art film :-) Something like the main theme of the water margin (starting after apr. 19 seconds).

Elie -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 12:49:30)
never heard of Elliot but that Caballero is amazing

guitarbuddha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 13:34:40)
Hey Eric, I thought it was just me that found film music/pastiche fascinating. Russian school, Elmer Bernstien, Aaron Copeland,John Barry and Henry Mancini and that's just the first twenty seconds. That Yamashita is truly incredible. Amazing integrity of line given the unbelievably dense arrangement. What an arranger ! And such strength and colour. We are lucky to have him. D.

guitarbuddha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 13:39:07)
Caballero is a hell of a guitarist for sure. But am I the only one that got frustrated with every entry being at exactly the same dynamic and with the same intent as the previous one ? D.

aeolus -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 16:19:54)
For lovers of Eliot. In the first, BWV 999 he does the same crazy maneuver he did in his Segovia style tape made years ago, making a great leap from the upper register to the lowest and back. Really distracting. For comparison (invidious?) Segovia at his prime playing the first 2 pieces. Interesting in BWV 999 at measures 31/34 he plays at pos 7 then drops down for last 4 notes in each measure. Eliot plays the same in the lower pos and uses a hammer-on for the d. I have been trying out playing it in pos 7 and remaining there playing the last 4 notes on strings 5 and 6. . I like that better than the hammer-ons.

kikkoman -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 17:07:53)
quote: ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha Hey Eric, I thought it was just me that found film music/pastiche fascinating. Russian school, Elmer Bernstien, Aaron Copeland,John Barry and Henry Mancini and that's just the first twenty seconds. That Yamashita is truly incredible. Amazing integrity of line given the unbelievably dense arrangement. What an arranger ! And such strength and colour. We are lucky to have him. D. From the same concert even more amazing considering the especially difficult chords he was using was that he used one of those old school ramirez guitars with the 665 mm scale length and 100000 inches of action Yamashita has a great set of arrangements but some of them were clearly reaching a bit too far. he transcribed a stravinsky symphony to the guitar and it was a little bit too much for me. He has since not done so much of these arrangements and has been playing much pieces by local japanese composers. i think he plays most composers exceptionally well except for bach. i really really don't like his bach interpretations.

Ricardo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 19:40:32)
ARRRRGGRRRRRR!!!! [:@] Sorry for random post...rather than comment I just needed some hardcore buleria arps after reading through this thread. Ok I am fine now, carry on sorry.

Grisha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 20:09:33)
It's time for the cooking recipes then.

pink -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 20:20:00)
Makes your b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s. swell and want to reproduce the essence of mankind!! Now I'm no expert, but I know what gives my ear the itch that makes me realise how human I am...good fekkin grief, how fantastic.!!! Best pink

guitarbuddha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 20:54:58)
quote: ORIGINAL: kikkoman i think he plays most composers exceptionally well except for bach. i really really don't like his bach interpretations. I agree completely ! I bought some of his Bach transcriptions and they were terrible, too often the fingering was completely against the grain of the motifs. And yet he is such a marvelous arranger, WEIRD. I had a recording of him playing the Invocacion Y Danza and the Moupou Suite Compostelana. The Rodrigo was incredible and the Mompou awful. When he gets it he gets it in spades and when he doesn't he really doesn't. I find it completely baffling. D.

guitarbuddha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 20:56:26)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grisha It's time for the cooking recipes then. Come on Grisha keep up !!!! We've had three gravy recipes already. D.

BarkellWH -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 21:11:13)
quote: We've had three gravy recipes already. But none utilized lard. Cheers, Bill

keith -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 10 2013 21:21:11)
how about a good boston dinner--boil some water, toss in the lobster, nuke the corn on the cob and down it all with sam adams beer.

Luka -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 10:42:20)
I remember, years ago you sent me this video and I just couldn't believe it.... Gerardo is unreal. We are often obsessed with the right hand but his left is unbelievable as well.

orsonw -> bulerias arpeggio (Aug. 11 2013 11:51:49)
quote: buleria arps You may enjoy some of this.

mark indigo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 16:29:02)
quote: Sorry for random post... well it is in the general flamenco section... was gonna suggest all this classical guff is off topic

aeolus -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 19:46:55)
More classical guff...but then this is a thread about Fisk. Eliot and Marco Tamayo burn on a Rodrigo concerto. Marco sadly now brought low by brain cancer. Eliot shows some impressive speed in runs and some flamboyant gestures.

Ricardo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 20:15:59)
quote: burn on a Rodrigo concerto. burn off tempo...[&:] This is what playing in time with rhythmic feeling is supposed to sound like:

aeolus -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 20:25:11)
Yeah, they really should have gotten some flamencos to play it. They are so good at counting.

Ricardo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 20:29:37)
quote: ORIGINAL: aeolus Yeah, they really should have gotten some flamencos to play it. They are so good at counting. sure, but they are too busy COMPOSING their own music. [:D]

aeolus -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 20:50:11)
Sanlucar aside, with all due respect, flamenco compositions are not considered at the leading edge of the musical world.

por medio -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 21:59:58)
quote: Sanlucar aside, with all due respect, flamenco compositions are not considered at the leading edge of the musical world. Personal agendas. Yawn.

guitarbuddha -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 22:36:16)
quote: ORIGINAL: por medio quote: Sanlucar aside, with all due respect, flamenco compositions are not considered at the leading edge of the musical world. Personal agendas. Yawn. And so so boring. I am sorry I started this thread. D.[&:]

aeolus -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 22:54:43)
Yeah, it's the blue smoke and mirrors aspect that I like.

Leñador -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 11 2013 23:16:18)
quote: Sanlucar aside, with all due respect, flamenco compositions are not considered at the leading edge of the musical world. Because 80 year old men know what's on the cutting edge of music [:D] rofl

Ricardo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 12 2013 9:03:19)
quote: ORIGINAL: aeolus Sanlucar aside, with all due respect, flamenco compositions are not considered at the leading edge of the musical world. Yes they are.

JohnWalshGuitar -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 12 2013 10:40:21)
Ricardo, I hadn't watched that Sanlucar performance is ages. What an absolutely incredible performance. Thanks for reminding me of that one. Awesome!!!!

mark indigo -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 12 2013 12:33:55)
quote: More classical guff...but then this is a thread about Fisk. but then this is a flamenco forum, and the thread is in the general flamenco section - nothing to do with flamenco - off topic a thread about Fisk is about as relevant to flamenco as this and they play in time...[8D]

tk -> RE: Elliot Fisk (Aug. 12 2013 17:52:23)
100% agree with Todd.

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