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xirdneH_imiJ -> Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 13:17:59)

this looks interesting





avimuno -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 13:28:05)

Interesting indeed.... looks like a total bitch to use though... unless you have a lot of patience!




avimuno -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 13:31:18)

With your interest in Indian classical music you most probably have heard of Shawn Lane already, but here it is none the less...

Part 1:

Part 2:




Erik van Goch -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 14:21:25)

I met Tolgahan in person at Rotterdam Conservatory and was allowed to play the instrument he is playing in above post (after he played us a couple of very beautiful microtonal folk songs).... i totally loved it.




tri7/5 -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 16:23:31)

There's been a small surge in microtonal guitars in the electric realm the past couple of years. More and more guys picking them up and experimenting. Kind of like when 7 and 8 string guitars first hit.

It doesn't get any better than Shawn Lane. Hard to believe he's been gone for 10 years.




avimuno -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 19:46:27)

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It doesn't get any better than Shawn Lane. Hard to believe he's been gone for 10 years.


Time flies indeed!




tijeretamiel -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 23 2013 21:22:59)

Rod Poole played a guitar which had been refretted in the intonation of a Pythagorean scale/set of intervals which is also found in Persian music.



The picture above is a reproduction of his guitar.

Unfortunately, there's no real Rod Poole guitar on Youtube or online. He made two solo albums each with one track, each over 45 minutes long, both out of print.

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rombsix -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Feb. 5 2024 3:12:43)





rombsix -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 23 2024 19:39:12)

What do y'all think?



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kitarist -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 24 2024 1:15:09)

First one OK, but it is not that different from bending (across- or along- string) vibrato sound - which he does not compare to when discussing it.

First three are cool and interesting. Fourth one is meh. IMHO.




estebanana -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 25 2024 1:16:18)

I hate all of it. Get an IUD , I mean Oud




Ricardo -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 26 2024 20:16:34)

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ORIGINAL: rombsix

What do y'all think?



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There is good vibrato and not so good vibrato. Good vibrato goes clearly a half step above target. We don’t do this on the guitar, it is for singing only. There are no deliberate microtones going on in flamenco singing, and therefore we don’t need it in the guitar. If this concept is to do a fusion with proper Turkish Makkam, etc., more power to him. But it is fusion, not Flamenco. Just like when paco used the IUD on Almoraima.

I slowed down Caracol with very little comments years ago, to refute this specific example that he used microtonal singing deliberately. It is chromatic not microtonal. The only bending I did was one the TONIC NOTE, which is never done in microtonal singing. He was doing vibrato flat of target, which makes him actually sound flat relative to the guitar. This is not an opinion, ask any Opera coach and check various examples yourself, any musical style (western music).



I am even more frustrated with that guy gone viral from the Manolo Sanlucar documentary where he claims “Féria” and “flamenco” are Arabic words….people totally buy into that erroneous claim of an obvious non-expert.

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estebanana -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 27 2024 3:28:23)

ORIGINAL: Ricardo




I am even more frustrated with that guy gone viral from the Manolo Sanlucar documentary where he claims “Féria” and “flamenco” are Arabic words….people totally buy into that erroneous claim of an obvious non-expert.








In Arabic countries ferias don’t fare so well.

Everyone knows Phlegmenco comes from a name connection to the Flamengos of the Low Lands.




Ricardo -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jun. 29 2024 16:27:32)

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Everyone knows Phlegmenco comes from a name connection to the Flamengos of the Low Lands.


Yes. Everyone that knows Spanish and Spain history…which is basically nobody. [8|] I mean I can’t even understand how a Spaniard could think 4 syllable “Feh-lah-Men-Kub” could ever morph into 3 “Fla-Men-co”, because, simply, Arabs once lived there. It is very strange IMO. However, Richard Feynman did say that the EASIEST person to fool, is yourself.




orsonw -> RE: Microtonal guitar (Jul. 15 2024 10:50:33)

Here's another way to do it- taking away half or more of each fret above the 12th fret.





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