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Sr. Martins -> 6 Saddles (Jul. 18 2013 23:56:20)

Has anyone ever tried to cut a bone saddle into 6 parts, one for each string?

I think that in theory it should work better than one piece transmiting vibrations from 6 strings, not to mention how much easier it would be to correct string height but...


Why isnt it done this way? Tradition? Aesthetics? Practicality?



Please, share your thoughts.




Jeff Highland -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 0:10:49)

I have cut a saddle into 3 pieces to correct string volume imbalances with an undersaddle transducer.
Worked great




Sr. Martins -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 0:16:49)

Well...


I meant "...besides when you're using transducers." [:D]



Just plain old guitar, full saddle vs 6 (or 3) part saddle.




tele -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 9:37:13)

If you want to cut separate slots for each string it is pretty difficult to do with a router but not impossible. I have seen two piece saddles but that was for intonation.
I dont see any reason why it would work better to have individual saddles.




jshelton5040 -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 14:16:48)

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ORIGINAL: Rui Martins

Has anyone ever tried to cut a bone saddle into 6 parts, one for each string?


I tried it but couldn't tell any difference in the sound or action. Years ago there was a fellow in Chicago marketing six part saddles. Each piece had three levels so the individual string could be raised or lowered slightly.




keith -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 14:21:31)

from david schramm's website about gilbert bridges--the "wavy" saddle looks interesting and one could make the "dips" between each string saddle deeper.

http://www.schrammguitars.com/gilbertbridge.html




Richard Jernigan -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 18:05:07)

I believe Gilbert also made bridges without the conventional saddle. Each string rested on a metal pin that fitted into the bridge.

Torres's favorite guitar, among all he built, La Leona had a bridge without a saddle, like a lute bridge. You can see it at 1:15 in this video I just came across:



RNJ




keith -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 18:33:43)

richard, david's article has both types--the wavy bone saddle and the pylons. they remind me of dental implants--only a whole lot cheaper.




C. Vega -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 19:02:24)

When he was working in Los Angeles in the 1960s, the late Manuel Rodriguez (yes, he of guitar factory fame) developed a bridge with six movable saddles that allowed each individual string to be adjusted for intonation.
The saddles were made of rosewood with a bone insert, or sometimes entirely of bone, and had a dovetail base. The base was carefully fitted into a matching dovetail slot in the main part of the bridge and each saddle could be slid a small amount to adjust the individual string length.
The idea never really caught on. They took a few shots at reviving it at various times but it still didn't fly.

www.dreamguitars.com/detail/2705-rodriguez_concert_536/




Leñador -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 20:29:45)

quote:

Manuel Rodriguez


Check out who the FIRST person on their list of famous players is. ROFL [:D]

http://www.guitars-m-r-sons.com/famosas.php




Sr. Martins -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 20:49:17)

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Check out who the FIRST person on their list of famous players is. ROFL

http://www.guitars-m-r-sons.com/famosas.php



Thats funny marketing. They dont even say that those people play their guitars. In fact you can even watch Steve Morse, Michael Angelo, Ripper Owens, R. Martin and a few others that are only signing the guitar so Iam guessing it isnt even being offered to them [8D]




Leñador -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 21:27:12)

I don't know that I trust any guitar builder that gives Ricky Martin top billing over Pepe Romero LOL [:D]




C. Vega -> RE: 6 Saddles (Jul. 19 2013 23:55:58)

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