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arielestulin -> Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 19:32:12)

thinking of picking one up. Anyone know anything about them? The price is right. Similar models in Spain go for 2 or 3 times. Any thoughts?




gerundino63 -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 19:36:44)

Do they sell Andalucian guitars in Spain??




arielestulin -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 19:39:32)

I meant to say similar quality of guitar are priced a lot higher. I was just in Spain this past spring looking to buy a guitar but I wasn't too keen on dropping 5000 Euros. Just looking at other options.




gerundino63 -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 19:44:01)

There was in the past a lot to do about andalucian guitars.
I suggest to do a little serch on the foro for it.
5000 euro is a lot of money.
Better contact a builder in person. Not a shop.




El Kiko -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 19:47:33)

Kiko reaches for the popcorn ....and waits..............




tele -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 20:14:51)

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ORIGINAL: El Kiko

Kiko reaches for the popcorn ....and waits..............


+1




rogeliocan -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 20:18:04)

Yes do a search, all has been discussed in depth (and deeper) many times.

lock the thread now!




BarkellWH -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 20:22:37)

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Kiko reaches for the popcorn ....and waits..............


From the Land of the Living Dead, the Topic That Will Not Die. To paraphrase Henry II, referring to his former friend Sir Thomas More, "Will no one rid us of this meddlesome subject?"

EDIT: As has been noted in subsequent posts below, I of course meant Thomas Becket, not Thomas More.

Cheers,

Bill




daffeey -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 20:52:38)

+2




Arash -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 17 2013 22:24:16)



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estebanana -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 0:26:52)

The horror, the horror.




elroby -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 0:46:38)

Don't lock the thread, what is wrong with you people? does his name hold special powers or something? If someone wants to discuss Ruben Diaz let them. Besides, I bet he plays better than most of you punks.




FredGuitarraOle -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 0:59:52)



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rogeliocan -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 1:11:23)

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arielestulin -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 1:28:22)

I just found some of the old threads on this topic. Boy did I open a can of worms!
Why does everyone hate these guitars so much. Maybe this topic should be closed.




timoteo -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 2:14:34)

In general, I'd say it's a good idea to ALWAYS search for your answer before you post. Not because you might inadvertently open a can of worms, but because there are hundreds of people in this forum who have spent a lot of time and effort to answer thousands of questions over many years, and in my opinion it's a little disrespectful to ignore all their contributions and ask them to repeat the discussion for your benefit.

If you've read all about these guitars THEN have an informed question or opinion, by all means go ahead and post. But please do your homework first.




avimuno -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 5:52:43)

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thinking of picking one up. Anyone know anything about them? The price is right. Similar models in Spain go for 2 or 3 times. Any thoughts?


Yey... it's "Andalusian Guitars" hunting season again!!! [:D] I'll get some popcorn ready...

What do you mean by "similar models in Spain" btw? Any particular makers?

Saludos!




mark indigo -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 11:26:02)

Don't say his name, your post should look like this:

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Don't lock the thread, what is wrong with you people? does his name hold special powers or something? If someone wants to discuss "He who shall not be named" let them. Besides, I bet he plays better than most of you punks.




Flamencito -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 11:52:47)

Don't lock the thread please... I just bought some stocks of the popcorn distribution company!



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estebanana -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 13:30:23)

Dios mio, these Andalusian guitar threads are excellent opportunities to discuss new food ideas. Anything about those guitars that is practical information for buyers is already out there. Every time some babe in the woods asks about them it brings out the rainmakers...

Here's the deal they are ok guitars, try one, if you like it, buy it. If you try it out next to other guitars you may find one you like better, in which case you should buy that guitar.

Buying flamenco guitars by brand or maker is not the best way to go, buy a flamenco guitar because you like the way it sounds and plays. Don't limit your search or decide one brand is good for you. Take another guitarist with you an let them hear you play the guitar and give you feed back. Then let the other guy play it.

There have been worse guitars than the Andlalucian Line made, just research the archives and see why it raises hackles on the foro to bring up the topic. And it's important to separate Ruben Diaz as a guitar player from Ruben Diaz the salesman. He is avery talented guitarist but that is a different subject his guitar selling business.

Speaking of him as a player we could all say nice things, I think. My only problem with his playing is that it so tightly adheres to a Paco de Lucia template that I am not always interested in the material. I just have different preferences.

Anytime his name is brought up it causes a spectacle, people love spectacles, especially the populacho of the foro. Lynch him, lynch him high and then let a hung jury try him after he be dead. It reminds me of this book I read about Goya and wars between Spain and France. The sleep of reason breeds monsters. Drag the bull from the ring, no one gets the ear.

Any pop corn recipes?




rogeliocan -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 14:06:17)

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El Kiko -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 17:43:57)





Sr. Martins -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 19:55:02)

Those guitars are ugly, sound bad, taste like crap and Ive never played one.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 20:17:15)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

From the Land of the Living Dead, the Topic That Will Not Die. To paraphrase Shakespeare's Henry II, referring to his former friend Sir Thomas More, "Will no one rid us of this meddlesome subject?"

Cheers,

Bill


Your history is always so accurate--but, it was Thomas à Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury, not Thomas More. More was Henry VIII's chief minister until he opposed Henry's divorce from Catherine of Aragon, and paid with his head.

RNJ




BarkellWH -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 18 2013 20:43:45)

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Your history is always so accurate--but, it was Thomas à Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury, not Thomas More. More was Henry VIII's chief minister until he opposed Henry's divorce from Catherine of Aragon, and paid with his head.


Thanks for the correction, Richard. I must have been mixing my Henrys. (Or perhaps dementia is setting in.) Next thing you know I'll be pairing Becket with Henry V and the Battle of Agincourt. Can an assisted living facility be far behind?

Cheers,

Bill




estebanana -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 19 2013 1:33:10)

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Your history is always so accurate--but, it was Thomas à Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury, not Thomas More. More was Henry VIII's chief minister until he opposed Henry's divorce from Catherine of Aragon, and paid with his head.

RNJ


But which one are you related to Richard?

* ducks and runs*
[:D]




RTC -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 19 2013 3:15:55)

Richard:
I always enjoy your knowledge, look forward to more of your post.

Estebanana:

You are right, he is a talented guitar player.




Johnc -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 19 2013 9:53:48)

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Your history is always so accurate--but, it was Thomas à Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury, not Thomas More. More was Henry VIII's chief minister until he opposed Henry's divorce from Catherine of Aragon, and paid with his head.

RNJ


Richard I'm pretty sure it was just Thomas Becket, the "à" was added much, much later

JC




BarkellWH -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 19 2013 13:22:41)

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Richard I'm pretty sure it was just Thomas Becket, the "à" was added much, much later


You are correct, John. Contemporary accounts all refer to Becket as "Thomas Becket," with some referring to him before he became Archbishop as "Thomas of London." The "a" in "Thomas a Becket" did not appear until the Reformation and is thought to have been suggested by the name of Thomas a Kempis, the author of "Imitation of Christ." Nevertheless, one can be forgiven for referring to him today as "Thomas a Becket," as that probably is the more popular rendering of his name.

Cheers,

Bill




El Kiko -> RE: Andalucian guitars (Jul. 19 2013 17:15:56)

Maybe the topic went off a bit at a tangent here ....tell me .....How did 12th century Thomas Becket or Saint Thomas of Canterbury, who was Archbishop until he was murdered in 1170. become involved in Andalucian guitars thread ??

Did he have one as well ?..Thomas Becket guitars , for those religious moments ..[&o]




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