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TANúñez -> Ink Stamping (May 1 2013 18:46:19)

How do you stamp the inside of your tops without the ink bleeding to far out in the wood? I stamped a scrap piece of spruce and the ink just bled out distorting the image.




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 1 2013 20:59:32)

why do you want to stamp the inside of your tops?




TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 1 2013 23:13:00)

You know, with a makers stamp or address the way many Spanish builders do. I think it looks nice if the stamp is nice.




estebanana -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 1 2013 23:41:35)

Use a thick oil based ink for printmaking. You can get it at an art store of from Daniel Smith online.




constructordeguitarras -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 4:38:40)

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I think it looks nice of the stamp is nice


Who is going to look at it?




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 7:36:25)

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Who is going to look at it?


Exactly. Why waste time and energy on things like that?




gerundino63 -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 9:26:27)

It is very romantic......had a guitar from Jose Lopez Bellido, he wroted two times " winter, date, and stamp" at both sides of the soundhole.
Only visible with a mirror.
The Gerundino have two stamps too at the under side of the top.
Very romantic.......like a secret draw in a secretaire....
[:)]




TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 11:52:13)

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Who is going to look at it?


Anyone who looks at the label since it'll be right next to it.




TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 12:22:03)

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Use a thick oil based ink for printmaking. You can get it at an art store of from Daniel Smith online.


Thank you sir.




Ricardo -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 13:11:00)

I think it looks cool as **** when the stamp goes across the label at like a funky angle partly on the corner partly on the wood of the back.




C. Vega -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 2 2013 13:17:14)

And a stamp can improve the sound of a guitar almost as much as a salt treatment or sanding a brace with 600 grit.




HolyEvil -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 0:08:00)

It looks cool when it's seen or when it's discovered by the owner.




gj Michelob -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 1:55:55)

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I think it looks cool as **** when the stamp goes across the label at like a funky angle partly on the corner partly on the wood of the back.


As in this cool as.... stamp?



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TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 12:01:07)

+++++CORRECTION+++++ I do not know why I wrote inside of top. I must have been thinking of something else. I don't want to stamp the top. I meant the back. Sorry for causing some of you to scratch your heads. When gj posted the above pic, I realized, I had wrote stamping the top instead of the back.




beno -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 12:58:49)

my Castillo's stamped on inside it's top...

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Very romantic.......like a secret draw in a secretaire....

agree




gj Michelob -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 16:06:30)

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+++++CORRECTION+++++ I do not know why I wrote inside of top. I must have been thinking of something else. I don't want to stamp the top. I meant the back. Sorry for causing some of you to scratch your heads. When gj posted the above pic, I realized, I had wrote stamping the top instead of the back.


So... is it a stamp as the Reyes I posted above, or something else and more elaborate?

The Reyes stamp evokes that venerable European bureaucracy, of stamps, seals and ribbons, slowly vanishing but still exquisite.

I see Tom Blackshear indulged this sweet vanity, as well



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TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 16:32:17)

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So... is it a stamp as the Reyes I posted above


Yes, that is what I meant. Sometimes, the ink would bleed out so maybe I was using too much ink or the wrong kind.




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 17:26:08)

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The Reyes stamp evokes that venerable European bureaucracy, of stamps, seals and ribbons, slowly vanishing but still exquisite.


Ha ha... It is disappearing, but especially spanish love all this kind of crap.
In the 80th, Spain was full of offices painted light brown, with some in a dark brown suit sitting with a huge collection of stamps doing nothing else but "clunk"

The famous Spanish burocracy still works similar. In the administration, all papers have to be copied 3x, signed and put in special places.

with respect of guitars, I think the ost elegant way to sign, besides the label, is to sign the inside of the top, which is the most important part of the guitar.

So TaNúñez what is next? Stamping the heel and end block as well? Just kidding. I will let you stamp the whole guitar if you prefer it that way[:D]




gj Michelob -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 17:30:18)

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And a stamp can improve the sound of a guitar almost as much as a salt treatment or sanding a brace with 600 grit.


Even though Charles Vega's comment is correct, it is also gratuitously bitter and unjustly offensive; above all it distracts [as it is his recurrently dysfunctional habit] from the question.

Anders is a purist of design -and I admire his work. Yet, pure and simple as they may appear, he too makes certain purely aesthetic choices. These my be shared or emulated by other builders and help define a 'style'.

Your choice about the stamp is neither a waste of time nor an unnecessary whim. Instead, it speaks of your individual taste, along with a rather human need to mark your work.

Flamenco guitars are among all related instruments [including classical], still slavishly respectful of the tradition they are made to uphold. Hence, a narrow scope of variation and creativity for luthiers who choose this challenge. In fact, the trend seems to follow that of violin makers, with their ubiquitous 'after' -after Stradivari[us] or Montagnana and the like.

That stamp you envision, staining across your label and the wood, is -I propose to interpret-
a respectful tribute to an inveterate school of flamenco guitar making, is the 'AFTER' of the violin making luthiers.

And I cannot wait to see your guitar finished in all its glory, dear Tom.




C. Vega -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 17:36:00)

Yawn. (Not directed at Tom N.)




TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 17:37:45)

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That stamp you envision, staining across your label and the wood, is -I propose to interpret-
a respectful tribute to an inveterate school of guitar making, is the 'AFTER' of the violin making luthiers.


Your exactly right here gj. I love this instrument and I have a lot of admiration and respect for all Spanish builders. They gave us this instrument to begin with. I consider myself a traditionalist and I'm trying to stick to the "Spanish method" of construction. The stamp is just my way of paying homage to that tradition. Nothing more.




TANúñez -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 3 2013 17:41:12)

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So TaNúñez what is next? Stamping the heel and end block as well? Just kidding. I will let you stamp the whole guitar if you prefer it that way


No Anders. The heel will have finger groves shaped in much like a pistol grip. The end block will have a hand carving of Torres portrait, inlaid in gold leaf.




VICTOR1 -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 23 2013 9:29:11)

Seal that portion of the wood with shellac let it dry then stamp.




Ruphus -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 23 2013 9:53:40)

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ORIGINAL: gj Michelob


Anders is a purist of design -and I admire his work. Yet, pure and simple as they may appear, he too makes certain purely aesthetic choices. These my be shared or emulated by other builders and help define a 'style'.

Your choice about the stamp is neither a waste of time nor an unnecessary whim. Instead, it speaks of your individual taste, along with a rather human need to mark your work.


Not around during your first active period on the foro me subjectively ( as I don´t give anything on fashion, - eventhough actually liked my classical Kiton suit, still made when they were only a handful of hand stitching old men ) expected a snob.
But the more I read of you the more I find thoughtful things to like. [:)]
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Not too eagerly concerned about cosmetics before, I find myself going wild now over everything including the visuals with my first custom made guitar.
Granted, the special materials only deserved it to be meticulously matched, but the picky being on a guitars appearance is new experience for me who would had chosen blindly among premades.


Stamp it, Tom, stamp it. :O)

Ruphus




estebanana -> RE: Ink Stamping (May 23 2013 14:24:38)

So Tom did you stamp out that guitar? [:D][:D]




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