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Morante -> La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 16:09:24)

Hola

Just had a wonderful meal of artichokes, asparagus, queso de la sierra y jamón de pata negra, with manzanilla. Then a great fish cooked in the oven with a fine wine from Navarra, then a plate of mixed fruits. Listening to Pavarotti and Maria Callas.

But at the same time, watching 2 workers painting the finca enfrente, without preparing anything, not even the weeds. It will seem great, very white!! But for how long?? And the street full of dog sh$t and vecinos who don´t respect their environment or even their vecinos. ¡Que horror!

Andalusía is a land of opposites: third world, first world.

Yet some great friends and great music. Tonight cante en directo, without micros. Tomorrow and jueves great jazz..

If you really want to understand flamenco you have to live is this heaven/hell. [8|]

(Don´t suppose anyone will understand this post, aparte de Anders!)



Sr. Martins -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 16:18:42)

They'll be painting it again next year by the same time, dont worry [8D]



mezzo -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 16:36:27)

quote:

If you really want to understand flamenco you have to live is this heaven/hell.

Y eso seria antes o despues de irse a goder al toro bravo en su muerte ?

I ask coz it's for my excel sheet agenda. I want it to be as nice as possible...



FredGuitarraOle -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 16:59:27)

I understand you Morante. Andalucía is not the only place, it's the same thing in Portugal. And I don't think there's any solution for that. It's the culture, the mentality, people just don't care.

I lived in Luxembourg for three years when I was a kid and I understand the contrast. I went to a market-place every Saturday to get some of our Portuguese food, since the market sellers where mainly Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and Greek. The market was held on an open square and had a opening and closing hour. The sellers always started packing up their stands a few minutes in advance. At the time the market should be closed you couldn't see any seller still there, a bit of garbage or even one single cigarette butt on the floor.

Now check how everything is thoroughly and religiously cleaned after a market in Portugal:
http://fotos.sapo.pt/c2bo671zIj5fD1j1RKOT/500x500

Check out how people carefully dump their garbage on the garbage contentors (that are only dumped once every century, by the way):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vzPOA32ATig/UMpnyyubT1I/AAAAAAAAJDg/VqW7alxMVHY/s1600/Cal%C3%A7ada-Marques-abrantes-lixos.JPG

This is just an example, I could go on and on for days. Another good example is our national monuments and every work of art related to our past. For a country that's completely bankrupt and has almost nothing to offer to the World, its history is one of the few things we still have of value. I'm not even going to show you how our monuments are preserved and the degradable state some of them reached...



FredGuitarraOle -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 17:03:46)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rui Martins

They'll be painting it again next year by the same time, dont worry [8D]

That is absolutely certain! This way they will always have work to do. It's the mentality, nothing we can do about that...



estebanana -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 23 2013 17:38:03)

The US has a lot of areas like third world countries with parts in the first world. I stayed for a total of four months. I noticed the old ladies in the hood knew everything I did and the guy at the market asked me how things were going because the old ladies told him.


There are places in the US that approach the disfunction of Andalucia, but without the food.



brandoscostumes -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 24 2013 9:30:26)

thankfully in the US immigrant laborers wait for you to offer them work rather than demanding money in exchange for not keying your car, and since the police dont tolerate kids drinking in the streets there´s not a sea of broken glass on our sidewalks, which have a width that accommodates two directions of traffic and allows you to avoid the dog ****. at least they make sure tourist spots like the parks and big plazas are nice though.



Richard Jernigan -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 24 2013 19:59:51)

There's a sea of broken glass, and I mean a sea covering the whole thing, on the parking lot of the Nuuanu Pali lookout on the Pali Highway that goes from Honolulu to Kailua on the northeast shore of Oahu. It's not from kids drinking. It's from thugs breaking car windows to steal the stereos and stuff tourists leave in the car.

First time I drove the Pali Highway many years ago I came out on the magnificent view, turned around and went back to the parking lot. Got out of the car and glass crunched underfoot. Scratched my head for a minute, looked around, broken glass everywhere, and said, "No, not leaving the car here."

RNJ



mark74 -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 24 2013 21:15:41)

you haven't been to Cicero, Illinois where the Latin Kings reign with impunity



brandoscostumes -> RE: La chapuza de Caí (Apr. 25 2013 20:41:27)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

There's a sea of broken glass, and I mean a sea covering the whole thing, on the parking lot of the Nuuanu Pali lookout on the Pali Highway that goes from Honolulu to Kailua on the northeast shore of Oahu. It's not from kids drinking. It's from thugs breaking car windows to steal the stereos and stuff tourists leave in the car.

First time I drove the Pali Highway many years ago I came out on the magnificent view, turned around and went back to the parking lot. Got out of the car and glass crunched underfoot. Scratched my head for a minute, looked around, broken glass everywhere, and said, "No, not leaving the car here."

RNJ


some friends of mine say they saw a child kidnapped (shoved into a car) there. anyway i grew up on oahu going barefoot everywhere, unthinkable in andalucia



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