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britguy -> Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 14:43:56)

I'm curious to try some really low tension strings on a couple of my guitars. Just to see what differences it might make in playability.

Will I need to change the action somewhat to avoid excess buzzing?

Raise the bridge saddle half a milimetre, maybe? Anything else?

What do you builders think?




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Leñador -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 15:56:21)

Not a builder but I play I tend to do all modifications myself, so far with success.

I think it depends exactly where your action is set now. You may be able to go to lower tension with no problems and modifications at all. If it were me I would play guess and check, start with doing nothing. If you get buzz loosen the strings up and fit a flat toothpick sized piece of wood underneath, tighten up the strings and see if you need to go higher...............




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 15:57:05)

quote:

What do you builders think?


Put a set of ultra low tension strings on and see what you think.[;)]




keith -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 16:21:24)

britguy--depends on which low tension strings you use. hannabach superlow tension strings are actually slightly higher in tension than la bella 2001 classical medium tension strings. on the other hand, aranjuez 200 are low tension strings in description and in "practice". i have used aranjuez 200 and luthier 20 in sequence and did not require any adjustment either way. of course, actual results will vary




Sean -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 16:33:14)

Ya thats the problem, there is no set standards for what defines the different tension ratings. What strings are you using right now?




britguy -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 21:18:21)

quote:

What strings are you using right now?


(britguy--depends on which low tension strings you use) (from keith).

Yes, I do understand that there are no precise standards of "low,low tension".

I was thinking of trying the Hannabach Green or maybe Yellow low tensions, and maybe Luthier 20's. (Any others I should consider?)

Presently I use mostly Savarez Red Card 520's, and Hannabach Medium 827's. And occasionally Hannabach Goldins on one guitar. I dont mix sets as a rule. Too confusing. . .

What are the really low tension strings available? And what rationale for using them, if any ???


Always willing to experiment. . .




Leñador -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 5 2013 21:59:02)

Those are already really low tension strings in the Flamenco world, I'm not sure why you would want to go lower............




keith -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 6 2013 1:37:14)

brit guy--the hannabach green label (low tension) have a total tension of 89 pounds on a 650mm scale and the savarez red cards have a total tension of 88.7 pounds. the hannabach yellow label (superlow tension) has a total tension of 83 pounds. i do not know what scale savarez uses to determine tension but i suspect it is 650mm. luthier 20 do not give numbers but they seem to me to be in the same ballpark as hannabach yellow label.

as for rationale--the standard answer is easier fingering and more flexibility with ligados. as to sound--that is the $64,000 question. i find lower tension strings to give a more earthy and old school type of sound. luthier 20 seem to be a good string at a great price with good longevity.

note: hannabach data is from their website and the numbers were converted from decanewtons to pounds. savarez data is from sbm.




kintla -> RE: Changing action for low-tension strings? (Mar. 9 2013 0:18:48)

I would try the LaBella flamenco strings, or maybe their 10PH's which are classical strings, but I wonder if anyone would know the difference.
Sherman




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